Friday, April 18, 2008

Re: [Xbox] 360 & Vist

Its funny really, I was totally sold on Vista for months but been having
annoying problems with it. Granted, those problems are most likely driver
and software problems not caused by Vista itself, more by the fact that the
developers of the drivers/software haven't totally figured it out yet.

Like I said, I am using Vista 64bit so perhaps that is my mistake. However I
was using it to edit large video files so 64bit was an advantage for that -
you can seek in large files much faster.

I will certainly go back to Vista once someone writes some WORKING Blu-ray
playback software. But PowerDVD HD outright refused to output 5.1 for
Blu-ray on Vista but works fine on XP. Well, as fine as PowerDVD ever
does. ;-)

Alex.

On Friday 18 April 2008 15:43:37 PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> I gotta go with the majority 'round here, I've got Vista on the laptop
> and XP on my work tower - I want Vista on the tower now, soon as I can snag
> a copy an slam it on there. I see no major differences in speed or
> indexing, in fact my Vista copy seems to work faster with it's internal
> indexing than the version on XP I've killed off years ago because of the
> lag (Fast Find BS).
>
> Vista was something I didn't want at first, took me a year to get XP to
> replace 98 because 98 was working and XP had headaches galore. Bugs
> worked out - I finally went over. Now it's the same with Vista. I didn't
> want a PC with Vista, but I had no choice at the time. Have XP to
> downgrade it to, figured I was going to do that. But after just a few days
> with Vista and not having hit more than one thing I'd call a 'bug' - sold
> me!
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Nelson Pacheco <nelson@nelzp.com> wrote:
> > Sorry, but you're wrong. It takes half a second for files to show as I
> > click folders within Windows Explorer.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Nelson
> >
> > From: Alex Atkin
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:53 PM
> > To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Xbox] 360 & Vist
> >
> >
> > Pick anyone at random, get them to browse around their filesystem in
> > explorer.
> > Get them to do the same in XP. Guarantee they will tell you XP is a LOT
> > faster.
> >
> > Vista was actually the first time I EVER saw Linux browse the filesystem
> > quicker than Windows. I couldn't believe Microsoft managed to slow it
> > down so much.
> >
> > Alex.
> >
> > On Friday 18 April 2008 01:15:08 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> > > LMAO, go away, your retarded, 1/2 as fast as xp, what are u smoking?
> > > turn off aero? well, if your machine can't support aero, u shouldn't
> > > run vista. jeez, go back to lame linux
> > >
> > > Alex Atkin wrote:
> > > > Hmm, Vista isnt too bad so long as you turn off Aero by choosing
> > > > Windows Vista Basic as your theme. That about doubles the response
> > > > speed and reduces the memory requirements a little. Of course, its
> > > > still about
> >
> > 1/2
> >
> > > > to 1/4 the speed of XP, possibly less.
> > > >
> > > > I was flabbergasted myself when my Vista install, which was fine on
> > > > 2GB RAM at first, started to churn like mad after everything I wanted
> > > > was installed for a while. I then had to borrow 1GB out of it for
> > > > another
> >
> > PC
> >
> > > > and it was barely usable. I then put XP Pro back on with only 1GB in
> >
> > and
> >
> > > > it was STILL miles faster than Vista was with 2GB.
> > > >
> > > > Alex.
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday 17 April 2008 20:57:35 PogoWolf wrote:
> > > >> Well your first problem will be Vista.. and the 2nd.. 3rd.. 4th..
> > > >> 5th.. and so one. =)
> > > >>
> > > >> Vista can interact with the 360 because of the built end media
> > > >> edition extensions, which you get with Windows Media player 11.
> > > >> or with other free 3rd party tools.
> > > >>
> > > >> as for the machine.. all depends on what you plan to use it for, but
> > > >> since are runing vista the FIRST thing I would do is scrape the 2
> > > >> gig and max it out with 4 GIG of Ram. Vista really REALLY wants 2
> > > >> gig
> >
> > just
> >
> > > >> to operate 'normally' let alone running anything.
> > > >>
> > > >> Since there's no 'good' video I assume the laptop won't be used for
> > > >> gameing, but it looks like it would handle everything else.
> > > >> so the only thing I can really recommund, is uping the RAM from 2
> > > >> gig
> >
> > to
> >
> > > >> 4.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Alan K. Martinez
> > > >> <akmartinez1@yahoo.com>
> > > >>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>> How well does the XBOX interact with a Vista system?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I just placed an order for a loaded Lenovo T61p and as I was
> > > >>> choosing the OS I saw that Vista can readily interact with a 360.
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> > > >>> I hope I purchased a good system too…
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> > > >>> I know this isn't a PC group but I'm sure we have some
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> > > >>> This is the spec of what I just ordered… anyone care to comment or
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> > > >>> dramatically brought the price down…
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