Monday, April 21, 2008

Re: [Xbox] 360 & Vist

Clearly you aren't listening again. I didn't say 16GB was a lot, I said it
forcing you to have double the space free it actually needs was annoying
because I couldn't spare that space as it was all already in use for XP and I
wasn't ready to REPLACE XP until I had VERIFIED Vista worked with my apps.

Alex.

On Monday 21 April 2008 16:54:03 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> hmmm, 16GB is small these days, get over it, if u think 16GB is alot,
> then your still living in the 80's
>
> Alex Atkin wrote:
> > :sigh: I always try to keep my Windows partition as small as I can get
> > : away
> >
> > with, so sue me.
> >
> > Firstly, this was me trying to TEST Vista to see what it was like before
> > I dedicating huge amounts of HD space for it. The fact that you need
> > double the free space just to install the OS is plain silly. It should
> > always be the installers choice if they want to cram the OS on a small
> > partition where it will leave little space for applications.
> >
> > I for one install all my games on a second partition and none of my
> > applications take a great deal of space. So I can comfortably install XP
> > on a fairly small partition, something Vista refuses to let me do.
> >
> > The drive itself wasn't small, but I didn't have enough space to dedicate
> > to Vista as much as XP had. You think its unreasonable to want to TEST
> > an OS for compatibility before overwriting my XP partition with it?
> >
> > Alex.
> >
> > On Monday 21 April 2008 13:00:03 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> >> not my fault u want to run vista on an old slow 16GB HDD
> >>
> >> Alex Atkin wrote:
> >>> And there is your keyword - RAID.
> >>>
> >>> Alex.
> >>>
> >>> On Friday 18 April 2008 17:22:13 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> >>>> i've had vista ultimate on my 1TB raid on my home desktop, for over a
> >>>> year so far. works great
> >>>>
> >>>> Alex Atkin wrote:
> >>>>> How many files do you have? How long since your OS was installed?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I found Vista really fast to begin with but as always happens, it got
> >>>>> slower over time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alex.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Friday 18 April 2008 02:05:05 Nelson Pacheco wrote:
> >>>>>> Sorry, but you're wrong. It takes half a second for files to show
> >>>>>> as I click folders within Windows Explorer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Nelson
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: Alex Atkin
> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:53 PM
> >>>>>> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Xbox] 360 & Vist
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Pick anyone at random, get them to browse around their filesystem
> >>>>>> in explorer. Get them to do the same in XP. Guarantee they will
> >>>>>> tell you XP is a LOT faster.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Vista was actually the first time I EVER saw Linux browse the
> >>>>>> filesystem quicker than Windows. I couldn't believe Microsoft
> >>>>>> managed to slow it down so much.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alex.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Friday 18 April 2008 01:15:08 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> >>>>>> > LMAO, go away, your retarded, 1/2 as fast as xp, what are u
> >>>>>> > smoking? turn off aero? well, if your machine can't support
> >>>>>> > aero, u shouldn't run vista. jeez, go back to lame linux
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Alex Atkin wrote:
> >>>>>> > > Hmm, Vista isnt too bad so long as you turn off Aero by
> >>>>>> > > choosing Windows Vista Basic as your theme. That about
> >>>>>> > > doubles the response speed and reduces the memory requirements
> >>>>>> > > a little. Of course, its still about 1/2 to 1/4 the speed of
> >>>>>> > > XP, possibly less.
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > > I was flabbergasted myself when my Vista install, which was
> >>>>>> > > fine on 2GB RAM at first, started to churn like mad after
> >>>>>> > > everything I wanted was installed for a while. I then had to
> >>>>>> > > borrow 1GB out of it for another PC and it was barely usable.
> >>>>>> > > I then put XP Pro back on with only 1GB in and it was STILL
> >>>>>> > > miles faster than Vista was with 2GB.
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > > Alex.
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > > On Thursday 17 April 2008 20:57:35 PogoWolf wrote:
> >>>>>> > >> Well your first problem will be Vista.. and the 2nd.. 3rd..
> >>>>>> > >> 4th.. 5th.. and so one. =)
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >> Vista can interact with the 360 because of the built end
> >>>>>> > >> media edition extensions, which you get with Windows Media
> >>>>>> > >> player 11. or with other free 3rd party tools.
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >> as for the machine.. all depends on what you plan to use it
> >>>>>> > >> for, but since are runing vista the FIRST thing I would do is
> >>>>>> > >> scrape the 2 gig and max it out with 4 GIG of Ram. Vista
> >>>>>> > >> really REALLY wants 2 gig just to operate 'normally' let
> >>>>>> > >> alone running anything.
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >> Since there's no 'good' video I assume the laptop won't be
> >>>>>> > >> used for gameing, but it looks like it would handle
> >>>>>> > >> everything else. so the only thing I can really recommund, is
> >>>>>> > >> uping the RAM from 2 gig to 4.
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Alan K. Martinez
> >>>>>> > >> <akmartinez1@yahoo.com>
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >>> How well does the XBOX interact with a Vista system?
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>> I just placed an order for a loaded Lenovo T61p and as I was
> >>>>>> > >>> choosing the OS I saw that Vista can readily interact with a
> >>>>>> > >>> 360.
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>> I hope I purchased a good system too…
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>> I know this isn't a PC group but I'm sure we have some
> >>>>>> > >>> knowledgeable people here…
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>> This is the spec of what I just ordered… anyone care to
> >>>>>> > >>> comment or flame…
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>> P.S. The pictured price is NOT the price I paid for it… My
> >>>>>> > >>> wife has some corporate perks and there's a sale and coupon
> >>>>>> > >>> code that dramatically brought the price down…
> >>>>>> > >>>
> >>>>>> > >>> I wonder why Vista Ultimate doesn't come or isn't offered
> >>>>>> > >>> through Lenovo in 64 bit…
> >>>>>> > >>>
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> >>>>>> > >>>
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