everyone just agrees with you all the time?
Alex.
On Thursday 17 April 2008 16:41:48 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> omg where did u come from i thought u died it was nice hearing people
> being correct for a change
>
> Alex Atkin wrote:
> > People always say the 360 is a PC but that's not exactly true. You
> > aren't giving credit to Microsoft for the shared memory architecture.
> >
> > Sure, PCs also have shared memory but its a completely different beast to
> > the 360. There isn't a single PC on the market that shares the system
> > RAM with the GPU that actually is any good (compared to a mid-range
> > graphics card with its own RAM). The memory in a PC is simply too
> > bottlenecked with the chipset and with too little bandwidth to handle
> > both system and graphics operations. However by some custom magic the 360
> > CAN handle that and its even a benefit to it, whereas on the PC its a
> > curse that slows the whole thing down.
> >
> > I'm not saying the 360 doesn't have anything in common with a PC. But by
> > that logic almost all computing devices are PCs. Fact is, theres only so
> > many configurations for a CPU, GPU, RAM and how to interface those parts
> > with each other (the chipset). So of course it has stuff in common with
> > PCs, as does any games console with a dedicated GPU, your broadband
> > router, your DVD player, etc. Heck, the early HD-DVD and Blu-ray players
> > use Pentium 4s as their CPU.
> >
> > The only difference is that devices which do not necessarily need to be
> > as powerful as a PC are customised so that all the chipset,CPU etc can be
> > in a single chip rather than a PC which has them scattered across the
> > motherboard for heat dissipation and upgradability.
> >
> > Sorry to go on, but I find it hugely disrespectful to the hardware
> > designers to say that the 360 is ONLY a PC crammed into a smaller box.
> > Particularly as some PCs are almost as small as the 360 but don't
> > overheat. So you also have to respect the fact that the hardware design
> > of the 360 has been customised BADLY in some respects. It needed a
> > slightly bigger box for sufficient airflow, they even clearly changed the
> > settings on the fans in dashboard updates because they realised that.
> > Mine clearly ramps the fan speeds up much quicker than it used to (both
> > before and after they replaced the motherboard).
> >
> > Alex.
> >
> > On Wednesday 16 April 2008 20:41:53 PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> >> Oh no argument there at all, I mean the 360 IS a PC! It's an AMD
> >> custom box packed in like a sardine and given a limited set of
> >> functionality by it's hardware and it's operating system. Other systems
> >> like the NES, SNES and PSOne on up until the OBX were custom-designed
> >> from the ground up to be game consoles. Finally the dopes got smart and
> >> figured out the PC guys had it right, take their hardware instead and
> >> just revamp it.
> >>
> >> So I'm fully with ya on the PC's place in gaming overall, there are
> >> things a 360 or PS3 won't or can't do that a PC has the option to
> >> provide... such as huge hard drives, multiple displays and more. I
> >> started using 'twins' (2 monitors) about 7 years ago on my main tower
> >> and now I can't live without it. Laptop drives me nuts in comparison,
> >> widescreen helps over my old one that finally got retired, but I gotta
> >> have at least the 2 monitors and only dream of having the cabbage around
> >> to go to 3 or 4 and get some games that can handle displays like that
> >> seamlessly!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Alan K. Martinez
> >>
> >> <akmartinez1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> Remember the PC has its place in the gaming industry too…
> >>>
> >>> It was the a match made in heaven with PC's and the gaming industry in
> >>> the early 90's in my opinion.
> >>>
> >>> It was because of the high demands of games and people with disposable
> >>> income at the time that created the demand for bigger better faster bad
> >>> ass CPU's, Video cards and everything else… If it weren't for gaming
> >>> then PC industry wouldn't be where it is now… we might be stuck in the
> >>> 486/66Mhz era for a while longer…
> >>>
> >>> At least that's my opinion…
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Xbox@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> >>> Bruce Ferguson
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:13 PM
> >>> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Re: Sony to MS: You've punched yourself out of the
> >>> fight
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I think games are better on the console then PC. That is what I used
> >>> to play on. I saw the light one day when a new Thief game came out. I
> >>> really liked that game and excitedly bought it. Geee it doesn't work.
> >>> OH, look there is a new feature( can't remember the name) for shadows,
> >>> firelight etc. Now I need a new video card, so you buy the card well
> >>> Direct X needs to be upgraded. Dam now the sound card has problems.
> >>> They don't make drivers for it any more. Those are the simple things
> >>> and I am not looking into memory or processor speed. This was not just
> >>> one game. Every time something new came out it was dinking with
> >>> drivers. One day I was in Toys-R-US and there is my Thief game for
> >>> Xbox. How much is the Xbox????----$150. Bought the console, bought
> >>> the game. Connected everything and dropped in the disk and everything
> >>> worked no hassles with hardware or software. I have not looked back
> >>> since then. Now I have upgraded to an Elite and love it. Ohhh the
> >>> PC????? Now it is for internet, e-mail paying bills etc. and for
> >>> looking up web sites when I am stuck. I can have both running at the
> >>> same time. Neat huhhhh.
> >>>
> >>> Bruce
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Alex Atkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I was wondering the same.
> >>>
> >>> I for one am not ready to ditch the 360 quite yet. In fact, the
> >>> consoles are about at the point where releasing a new console will make
> >>> minimal differences to the games so I am perfectly happy to stick with
> >>> 360 for some time to come, even if PC inches its way past in graphical
> >>> power.
> >>>
> >>> Speaking of that though, I do not think PC games are vastly surpassing
> >>> the 360
> >>> at all. Its going to take a while until enough people have good enough
> >>> PCs for the games to really outshine the 360. It was fairly obvious
> >>> when the PC was a greater resolution or at least progressive scan when
> >>> TVs were not. Now in the HD era, the difference is less noticable.
> >>>
> >>> The only thing I dislike about the 360 is how damn noisy it is.
> >>> Although I am
> >>> lucky in that I am only on my second console and I had NO DRM hassle
> >>> when they replaced the motherboard and DVD-ROM drive, they migrated my
> >>> old consoles serial number to the new motherboard.
> >>>
> >>> Am I the only person still bothered about achievements? I still find it
> >>> hard to play Wii and PC games due to the lack of achievements. Yes I
> >>> know some PC games have em, but if its a choice between the same game
> >>> on PC or 360 I choose 360 so they do not count.
> >>>
> >>> Alex.
> >>>
> >>> On Tuesday 15 April 2008 14:57:28 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> >>>> why do u think 360 is on it's last legs? it might be 50% through it's
> >>>> lifespan, maybe.
> >>>>
> >>>> PogoWolf wrote:
> >>>>> Yes.. and the PS3 has been out for how long? It was expected to
> >>>>> outsell the 360 by now.
> >>>>> again, the 360 is going on it's last legs, and Blu-Ray is now
> >>>>> standard..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> of course, that's not how Sony spins the story though.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:47 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net
> >>>>> <mailto:prophetizer@wrup.net>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> actually, ps3 has been outselling 360 the past 2-3 months
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PogoWolf wrote:
> >>>>>> Still no where near the Wii and the 360, and it's close enough to
> >>>>>> the death of HD-DVD.
> >>>>>> and it's not that I hate Sony. I hate the bait and switch
> >>>>>> tactics they use and I hate
> >>>>>> the 'our shit doesn't stink' attidude of their marketing. I play
> >>>>>> EQ2, so it's not like
> >>>>>> i'm not giving money to Sony. I still won't own one unless I
> >>>>>> win one.. One is given to me,
> >>>>>> or I finally get an HD TV with a new sound system and want a 'HD'
> >>>>>> DVD player.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now stop being a Fanboy.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:24 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR
> >>>>>> <prophetizer@wrup.net <mailto:prophetizer@wrup.net>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> no, quinn is quite wrong, sales got really strong in
> >>>>>> december/january, before hd-dvd was announced dead, you just
> >>>>>> hate sony
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> PogoWolf wrote:
> >>>>>>> Sorry man.. Quinn was correct with one statement: "the
> >>>>>>> system would fail if not for that drive."
> >>>>>>> that's true, and the numbers prove it. As soon as people
> >>>>>>> found out that HD-DVD was dead
> >>>>>>> that's when sales started to pick back up.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It will be interesting to see what the next year will bring
> >>>>>>> for the PS3, since the 360 is on it's last legs
> >>>>>>> the 'holy crap!' moments will be few and far between. Where
> >>>>>>> as the PS3 is supposed to have more
> >>>>>>> power, so the developers should just be starting to see what
> >>>>>>> the PS3 can pull off.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> but damn.. Lair is the best game.. the PS3 is doomed to
> >>>>>>> doing nothing more then play movies.
> >>>>>>> oh wait.. there's also Ridge Racer!!!!!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:36 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR
> >>>>>>> <prophetizer@wrup.net <mailto:prophetizer@wrup.net>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> well, your not even close to correct, you probably only
> >>>>>>> think this because your a typical fanboy. but lets be
> >>>>>>> clear about this, almost any game that comes out for
> >>>>>>> 360, is also on the ps3, the ps3 has a rather large
> >>>>>>> library, but not a lot of exlusives. ps3 is a fantastic
> >>>>>>> system, though 360 is my system of choice, for the
> >>>>>>> controller and online play, but i do love my ps3 as well
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> plus, i'm a HD whore, so i love my bluray too LOL
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Quinn Aguirre wrote:
> >>>>>>>> nobody has 15 games for their ps3 because they all suck
> >>>>>>>> for the most part. everyone has been buying it for the
> >>>>>>>> bluray they dont play games on it. the system would
> >>>>>>>> fail if not for that drive. the real game players are
> >>>>>>>> on 360 or their PS2 not the PS3 thats plain and
> >>>>>>>> simple. ~Quinn
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> */Erik Sundquist <lotw_1@yahoo.com>
> >>>>>>>> <mailto:lotw_1@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The funny thing is that all of the new PS3 games
> >>>>>>>> are putting large
> >>>>>>>> amounts, 3-5g of data onto the HD the 1st time you
> >>>>>>>> put a game into
> >>>>>>>> the PS3 due to the slowness of the blue-ray drive.
> >>>>>>>> So you purchase a
> >>>>>>>> game, pop it into your PS3 and wait 5-20 minutes
> >>>>>>>> before you can play
> >>>>>>>> it while it copies data. I know why it is being
> >>>>>>>> done, so that the
> >>>>>>>> game loads/streams faster, but there is no choice,
> >>>>>>>> automatically
> >>>>>>>> takes the HD space away for any game. If you do the
> >>>>>>>> math those poor
> >>>>>>>> people who own the 40g version will put about 15
> >>>>>>>> games into their
> >>>>>>>> system and the HD will be full (averaging 3g per
> >>>>>>>> game). If you
> >>>>>>>> delete that data from the HD it will force the
> >>>>>>>> auto-reload of that
> >>>>>>>> data the next time you play that game, another 5-20
> >>>>>>>> minute wait.
> >>>>>>>> Good move Sony, way to make users feel loved.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --- In Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>>>> <mailto:Xbox%40yahoogroups.com>, "PSCG Cleveland"
> >>>>>>>> <pscgcleveland@...> <mailto:pscgcleveland@...>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Ain't this more like 'Sony gloats having gotten
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> away with payola
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> and holding a gun to people's heads to ensure
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> BluRay won out'?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Ya know as more of an MS fan in the console wars
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> to this point,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've had the decency not to run Sony into the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ground as the pompus
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> asses they are, but this schmuck makes me want to
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> take them
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> down constantly anymore.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If y'all remember, I can be quoted as saying Sony
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> would instantly
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> turn into smug (*#$(#*$(* shortly after pulling
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> their underhanded
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> deals.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I think the cat says it all!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Nelson Pacheco
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <nelson@...> <mailto:nelson@...> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> LOL
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>> Nelson
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/04/10/sony-to-ms-youve-punched-
> >>>>>>>> yourself-out-of-the-fight/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Filed under: News
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/category/news/>,
> >>>>>>>> Console
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wars
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/category/console-wars/>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.gamepro.com/sony/ps3/games/features/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 174588.shtml>Sony is back
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> to their typical mudslinging ways (because we
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> all know Microsoft
> >>>>>>>> is an
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> angel) when, in an interview with
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> GamePro<http://www.gamepro.com/
> >>>>>>>> sony/ps3/games/features/174588.shtml>,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Sony's Marketing VP Scott Steinberg mocked
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Microsoft's marketing
> >>>>>>>> strategy
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> saying that they "may have punched themselves
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> out of the fight".
> >>>>>>>> Really?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> In the interview, Steinberg decided to
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> gloat<http:/ <http://mail.google.com/>/
> >>>>>>>> www.xbox360fanboy
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.xbox360fanboy/>.com/category/console-wars/>about the
> >>>
> >>> PS3's
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> upcoming
> >>>>>>>> catalog of games, console features and superb
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Blu-ray tech all while pointing out that their
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "competition has
> >>>>>>>> already
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> leveraged all their big assets in the first
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> couple of years" and
> >>>>>>>> doesn't
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> have anything left to offer. A metaphorical
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> knockout to one's
> >>>>>>>> self.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Steinberg further went on to say that they "are
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the [HD movie]
> >>>>>>>> standard"
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> with a "formula [that] is going to drive
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> consumers to the PS3"
> >>>>>>>> ... amazing.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So, we guess a hugely successful Xbox Live
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Arcade, a Video
> >>>>>>>> Marketplace,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> games like *Halo Wars*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/tag/halo-
> >>>>>>>> wars>, *Ninja
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Gaiden II* <http://ninja-gaiden-ii/>, *Fable
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2*<http://
> >>>>>>>> www.xbox360fanboy
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.xbox360fanboy/>.com/tag/fable-2>,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> *Banjo-Kazooie 3*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/tag/banjo-kazooie-
> >>>>>>>> 3> and *Gears
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> of War 2*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/tag/gears-of-war-2>
> >>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>> mean
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> much to Mr. Steinberg and his magical, global
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> warming ending,
> >>>>>>>> world peace
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> bringing Blu-ray technology.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Read
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.gamepro.com/sony/ps3/games/features/
> >>>>>>>> 174588.shtml> |
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Permalink<http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/04/10/sony-to-ms-
> >>>>>>>> youve-punched-yourself-out-of-the-fight/>| Email
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/forward/1163574/> |
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Comments<http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/04/10/sony-to-ms-youve-
> >>>>>>>> punched-yourself-out-of-the-fight/#comments>
> >>>>>>>>
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