Tuesday, April 15, 2008

Re: [Xbox] Re: Sony to MS: You've punched yourself out of the fight

And regardless of my feelings for Proph, cause I luv him so much <G>,
I'm 100% with Pogo on this one. It's the Sony attitude and it's not like it's
something new for them. This goes back nearly 30 years when they
demanded the world bow down before them and take Betamax up the
ying-yang. I worked in TV back then, Sony made the unquestionably
best video gear on the market for the 3/4" tape everyone was using to
bring you what you saw on the News, TV, etc.

But that wasn't good enough. Someone invented VHS and they couldn't
handle giving up the 'new' home market no one owned. Instead of just
embracing the format and making machines like they did for the Pro's
(they didn't invent the 3/4" Pro format either) it HAD to be their way and
they HAD to be #1 - period. Tried the same backdoor deals they won
with on the HD-DVD war.

Remember the Memory Sticks? MMC, SD and more beat the crap
out of them too and Sony ate billions.

So there's nearly 30 years of history of bullying, backdoor-ing and
BS from Sony. I'll admit the PS2 was unreal, had one myself. But
like Pogo said - last one till I win one. MS ain't perfect, Nintendo's
certainly not as powerful, but at least they just tell you up front they're
going to tell you they love you and buy you dinner before the fun
begins!

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:32 AM, PogoWolf <pogowolf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Still no where near the Wii and the 360, and it's close enough to the death
> of HD-DVD.
> and it's not that I hate Sony. I hate the bait and switch tactics they use
> and I hate
> the 'our shit doesn't stink' attidude of their marketing. I play EQ2, so
> it's not like
> i'm not giving money to Sony. I still won't own one unless I win one.. One
> is given to me,
> or I finally get an HD TV with a new sound system and want a 'HD' DVD
> player.
>
> Now stop being a Fanboy.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:24 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > no, quinn is quite wrong, sales got really strong in december/january,
> before hd-dvd was announced dead, you just hate sony
> >
> > PogoWolf wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry man.. Quinn was correct with one statement: "the system would fail
> if not for that drive."
> > that's true, and the numbers prove it. As soon as people found out that
> HD-DVD was dead
> > that's when sales started to pick back up.
> >
> > It will be interesting to see what the next year will bring for the PS3,
> since the 360 is on it's last legs
> > the 'holy crap!' moments will be few and far between. Where as the PS3 is
> supposed to have more
> > power, so the developers should just be starting to see what the PS3 can
> pull off.
> >
> > but damn.. Lair is the best game.. the PS3 is doomed to doing nothing more
> then play movies.
> > oh wait.. there's also Ridge Racer!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:36 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > well, your not even close to correct, you probably only think this
> because your a typical fanboy. but lets be clear about this, almost any
> game that comes out for 360, is also on the ps3, the ps3 has a rather large
> library, but not a lot of exlusives. ps3 is a fantastic system, though 360
> is my system of choice, for the controller and online play, but i do love my
> ps3 as well
> > >
> > > plus, i'm a HD whore, so i love my bluray too LOL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Quinn Aguirre wrote:
> > > nobody has 15 games for their ps3 because they all suck for the most
> part. everyone has been buying it for the bluray they dont play games on it.
> the system would fail if not for that drive. the real game players are on
> 360 or their PS2 not the PS3 thats plain and simple. ~Quinn
> > >
> > > Erik Sundquist <lotw_1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > The funny thing is that all of the new PS3 games are putting large
> > > amounts, 3-5g of data onto the HD the 1st time you put a game into
> > > the PS3 due to the slowness of the blue-ray drive. So you purchase a
> > > game, pop it into your PS3 and wait 5-20 minutes before you can play
> > > it while it copies data. I know why it is being done, so that the
> > > game loads/streams faster, but there is no choice, automatically
> > > takes the HD space away for any game. If you do the math those poor
> > > people who own the 40g version will put about 15 games into their
> > > system and the HD will be full (averaging 3g per game). If you
> > > delete that data from the HD it will force the auto-reload of that
> > > data the next time you play that game, another 5-20 minute wait.
> > > Good move Sony, way to make users feel loved.
> > >
> > > --- In Xbox@yahoogroups.com, "PSCG Cleveland" <pscgcleveland@...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ain't this more like 'Sony gloats having gotten away with payola
> > > > and holding a gun to people's heads to ensure BluRay won out'?
> > > >
> > > > Ya know as more of an MS fan in the console wars to this point,
> > > > I've had the decency not to run Sony into the ground as the pompus
> > > > asses they are, but this schmuck makes me want to take them
> > > > down constantly anymore.
> > > >
> > > > If y'all remember, I can be quoted as saying Sony would instantly
> > > > turn into smug (*#$(#*$(* shortly after pulling their underhanded
> > > > deals.
> > > >
> > > > I think the cat says it all!
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Nelson Pacheco <nelson@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > LOL
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Nelson
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/04/10/sony-to-ms-youve-punched-
> > > yourself-out-of-the-fight/
> > > > >
> > > > > Filed under: News <http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/category/news/>,
> > > Console
> > > > > wars <http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/category/console-wars/>
> > > > > <http://www.gamepro.com/sony/ps3/games/features/
> > > 174588.shtml>Sony is back
> > > > > to their typical mudslinging ways (because we all know Microsoft
> > > is an
> > > > > angel) when, in an interview with GamePro<http://www.gamepro.com/
> > > sony/ps3/games/features/174588.shtml>,
> > > > > Sony's Marketing VP Scott Steinberg mocked Microsoft's marketing
> > > strategy
> > > > > saying that they "may have punched themselves out of the fight".
> > > Really?
> > > > >
> > > > > In the interview, Steinberg decided to gloat<http://
> > > www.xbox360fanboy.com/category/console-wars/>about the PS3's upcoming
> > > catalog of games, console features and superb
> > > > > Blu-ray tech all while pointing out that their "competition has
> > > already
> > > > > leveraged all their big assets in the first couple of years" and
> > > doesn't
> > > > > have anything left to offer. A metaphorical knockout to one's
> > > self.
> > > > > Steinberg further went on to say that they "are the [HD movie]
> > > standard"
> > > > > with a "formula [that] is going to drive consumers to the PS3"
> > > ... amazing.
> > > > > So, we guess a hugely successful Xbox Live Arcade, a Video
> > > Marketplace,
> > > > > games like *Halo Wars* <http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/tag/halo-
> > > wars>, *Ninja
> > > > > Gaiden II* <http://ninja-gaiden-ii/>, *Fable 2*<http://
> > > www.xbox360fanboy.com/tag/fable-2>,
> > > > > *Banjo-Kazooie 3* <http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/tag/banjo-kazooie-
> > > 3> and *Gears
> > > > > of War 2* <http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/tag/gears-of-war-2> don't
> > > mean
> > > > > much to Mr. Steinberg and his magical, global warming ending,
> > > world peace
> > > > > bringing Blu-ray technology.
> > > > >
> > > > > Read <http://www.gamepro.com/sony/ps3/games/features/
> > > 174588.shtml> |
> > > > > Permalink<http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/04/10/sony-to-ms-
> > > youve-punched-yourself-out-of-the-fight/>| Email
> > > > > this <http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/forward/1163574/> |
> > > Comments<http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/04/10/sony-to-ms-youve-
> > > punched-yourself-out-of-the-fight/#comments>
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