contradict what you're saying. And if we bought into that, then ya, we
couldn't compare anything to anything and life would end - QED.
Me, I'm wondering how a short comparison of a 360 to a Windows-based
PC turned into a Linux-Vista flamewar and has continued on beyond the
limits of having anything to do with a 360 - which is why I bowed out
after my $.02 that Vista ain't pissed me off bad enough yet to chuck my
laptop out on the freeway at 75MPH to show MS how I feel about them.
But then again, that's just me...
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Alex Atkin <yahoo@maewhitman.com> wrote:
>
> So basically you are saying you can't compare ANYTHING because they have
> differences. Erm, that's the whole POINT of comparing stuff. If they were
> exactly the same then there wouldn't be anything TO compare.
>
> The whole point of comparing one item to another is to identify its
> differences and benefits against another product. So perhaps comparing
> Apples to Oranges actually makes MORE sense than comparing Apples to Apples.
>
> That said, I still disagree that comparing Windows to Linux is the same
> thing.
> Both of those OS can run technically run my Windows apps, or can run apps
> that do the same tasks either better or worse. So at the end of the day, its
> worth comparing. If you never compared different OS then you would never
> know if one was better than the other for what you wanted.
>
> Besides, I still say XP 32bit runs "the software I use" faster than Vista
> 64bit does. Like I already said, perhaps I should install Vista 32bit for a
> fairer comparison but at the end of the day its not about comparing
> IDENTICAL
> systems, that's fairly pointless. Its about comparing DIFFERENT things to
> see if they are better/worse than what I am currently using.
>
> Alex.
>
>
>
> On Monday 21 April 2008 16:39:14 PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> > Actually by his logic and your own ya just spewed out, you shot yourself
> > in the ass? Linux works fundamentally differently than Windows does, but
> > they're both OS's that can run on the same machine (for the most part).
> >
> > You can't run PS3 titles on a 360 (or vice versa), you can't use anything
> > from a PSOne on a Sega Saturn and you sure as hell can't run anything
> > from one phone on another without major porting because of the difference
> > in hardware and platforms involved. So all of those examples are Apples
> > to Oranges...
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Alex Atkin <yahoo@maewhitman.com> wrote:
> > > So comparing the PS3 to the Xbox 360 is Apples to Oranges too I presume?
> > > Like comparing the Sega Saturn to the PSone?
> > >
> > > Comparing Windows to Linux is EXACTLY the same principle as above. They
> > > might
> > > be different arcitectures but people are going to use them for the same
> > > tasks
> > > therefore comparing them against each other is inevitable. By your logic
> > > you can't compare a Nokia phone against a Sony Ericsson because, god
> > > forbid, they
> > > have a different OS. But if they are designed to do the same tasks its
> > > perfectly logical to compare them. If you can't compare Windows to
> Linux,
> > > or one games console against another then basically you are saying
> > > NOTHING can be compared against each other - because they aren't by the
> > > company.
> > >
> > > Alex.
> > >
> > > On Monday 21 April 2008 13:01:31 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> > > > why do u keep comping apples to oranges? and if you don't have a
> > > > suitable test environment why bother at all? why does everything you
> > > > say seem so irrelevant?
> > > >
> > > > Alex Atkin wrote:
> > > > > It was just an annoying thing I noticed when I was trying to TEST
> > > > > Vista for the first time. I couldn't dedicate more than about 10GB
> of
> > > > > disk space to it as it was my previously Linux partition.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, Linux installs its OS and ALL its apps in less than 5GB, even
> > > > > when it has 2 copies of all the libraries because its the 64bit
> > > > > version. So what on earth is Microsoft wasting all that space on?
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday 18 April 2008 18:13:26 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> > > > >> well, if you only have a 16GB drive in your machine, it couldn't
> run
> > > > >> vista anyways. why point out such stupid things that don't matter?
> > > > >> whats wrong with u man, do u hate the world? hate yourself? hate
> > > > >> your life? wtf
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Alex Atkin wrote:
> > > > >>> Ah yes, but it refuses to install if you have less than 16GB free
> > > > >>> as I recall. Also, the 64bit version is a bit bigger I believe.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Alex.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Friday 18 April 2008 02:17:45 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> > > > >>>> who cares how much space it takes, and it's not 16GB, it's 8
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Alex Atkin wrote:
> > > > >>>>> But is it as fast as XP? I don't think so.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I like the interface, I hate the bloat. Just try to convince me
> > > > >>>>> 16GB is necessary for a basic Windows install! Go on!
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Alex.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Friday 18 April 2008 00:27:20 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> > > > >>>>>> vista is not terrible if your machine is built for it
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Alan K. Martinez wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> I ordered it with 2 gig 1 dimm so I can order a second 2 gig
> > > > >>>>>>> later and find it cheaper... so I will up it to 4 gig
> > > > >>>>>>> eventually...
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> All opinions aside of the OS I should be in good shape. I have
> > > > >>>>>>> a copy of XP Pro I can throw on it if Vista is that terrible
> > > > >>>>>>> and
> > >
> > > just
> > >
> > > > >>>>>>> keep the Vista install in the recovery partition if they put
> > > > >>>>>>> out patches and updates that fix any problems I have...
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>>>>>>-- -- -
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> *From:* Xbox@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups.com] *On
> > > > >>>>>>> Behalf Of *PogoWolf
> > > > >>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:58 PM
> > > > >>>>>>> *To:* Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Xbox] 360 & Vist
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Well your first problem will be Vista.. and the 2nd.. 3rd..
> > > > >>>>>>> 4th.. 5th.. and so one. =)
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Vista can interact with the 360 because of the built end media
> > > > >>>>>>> edition extensions, which you get with Windows Media player
> 11.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> or with other free 3rd party tools.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> as for the machine.. all depends on what you plan to use it
> > > > >>>>>>> for, but since are runing vista the FIRST thing I would do is
> > > > >>>>>>> scrape
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > >>>>>>> 2 gig
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> and max it out with 4 GIG of Ram. Vista really REALLY wants 2
> > > > >>>>>>> gig just to operate 'normally' let alone running anything.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Since there's no 'good' video I assume the laptop won't be
> used
> > >
> > > for
> > >
> > > > >>>>>>> gameing, but it looks like it would handle everything else.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> so the only thing I can really recommund, is uping the RAM
> from
> > > > >>>>>>> 2 gig to 4.
> > > > >>>>>>>
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> > > > >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Alan K. Martinez
> > > > >>>>>>> <akmartinez1@yahoo.com <mailto:akmartinez1@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> How well does the XBOX interact with a Vista system?
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> I just placed an order for a loaded Lenovo T61p and as I was
> > > > >>>>>>> choosing the OS I saw that Vista can readily interact with a
> > > > >>>>>>> 360.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> I hope I purchased a good system too...
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> I know this isn't a PC group but I'm sure we have some
> > > > >>>>>>> knowledgeable people here...
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> This is the spec of what I just ordered... anyone care to
> > > > >>>>>>> comment or flame...
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> P.S. The pictured price is NOT the price I paid for it... My
> > > > >>>>>>> wife has some corporate perks and there's a sale and coupon
> > > > >>>>>>> code that dramatically brought the price down...
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> I wonder why Vista Ultimate doesn't come or isn't offered
> > > > >>>>>>> through Lenovo in 64 bit...
> > > > >>>>>>>
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> > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>> On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the
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> > > > >>>>>>> ==============================
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> > >
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> > > > >>>>>>> <Http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xbox> (The largest/best XBox
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> > > > >>>>>>> ==============================
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> ------------------------------------
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> ____________________________________________________
> > > > >>>>> Copyright (c) 2000-2008 Yahoo! Xbox community Group
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> > > > >>>>> All rights reserved.
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> > > > >>>>> Operated by 'The PogoWolf' and ToddATV
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> > > > >>>>> http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/gamers_for_life
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Tell your friends. ;)
> > > > >>>>> ___________________________________________________
> > > > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> > > > >>>
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> > > > >>> (http://gamesource.groups.yahoo.com/group/Xbox/).
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> > > > >>> Operated by 'The PogoWolf' and ToddATV
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > > ___________________________________________________
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>
>
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