the groups that's causing the bounce. And sadly I believe from
what little BB said it's someone formerly on an Enterprise Server
that got canned and had fwd's set on his BB. The IT chumps
never cleaned it up, but whatever company it is with the BES
is a subscriber to one of those carriers. From there, Blackberry
outright refused to not only ID either, any or all of them from the
headers of the mail - but they claim the protection rights go from
top to bottom so they can't even NOTIFY the carrier to make it
stop! Total ignorance.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Alan K. Martinez <akmartinez1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yeah, my trace falls back to Rim and stops cold there too...
>
> One other theory I have is captainblake@m1.blackberry.com is the end service
> from RIM but it could be from one of the major cell sp's that forwards the
> message to RIM if they aren't using their own BES.
>
> How many service providers offer BlackBerry service? Are the major service
> providers using their own BES or do they just forward the message to RIM for
> them to redirect?
>
> T-Mobile, AT&T, Cingular before they merged, and Verizon... is there any
> other a major providers?
>
> If we know what mail domain they are using for their BlackBerries we can try
> to single the bounce out one by one...
>
> For instance... T-Mobile might be captainblake@tmobile.net. Sent a test
> message to that address and see if it traces out the same as the
> captainblake@m1.blackberry.com message or see if it goes through.
>
> Apologize to the end user if it is a real address and then move on. Just
> one theory... I'll see if I can think of more...
>
> Have you guys tried grouping the member list and sending out a test message
> to the members to single out the original address?
>
> If you guys want I can volunteer to do this... I can send out a test message
> to about 100 users a day to narrow down the list... I'd have to be made a
> temporary mod until the project is complete...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Xbox@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PSCG
> Cleveland
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:38 AM
> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Xbox] BlackBerry Email Trace
>
> You do... You're the new God. Pogo and I both beat the crud
> outta that mess and it goes back to Blackberry - who refuses to
> do anything, even when threatened with legal action. They say
> the only way they're giving up the ID or even just the Carrier behind
> ole' Captain Blakeass is with a court order and maybe not even
> then (or at least not all of it).
>
> I tried IP tracing, everything I had I threw at it - nada. It's basically
> some chump who didn't pay his bill with one of the carriers or he
> got his ass fired and the IT guys never cleaned up after him. So
> it hits a bouncing wall and Blackberry refuses to lift a finger, even
> though it's their domain causing us all the grief.
>
> Now's the time you need someone in the Media to crawl out
> from under their rock and howl like a stuck pig about how BB
> spams without responsibility. That'd wake them up, good PR for
> whoever writes it up and splashes it in the headlines. You know
> one picks up another's stories and it'd go like wildfire.
>
> But you do it... man... and you're my new Cult Leader and Proph's
> out on his sorry tryna be a 'burbanite butt!
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Alan K. Martinez
> <akmartinez1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I'm going to see if I can trace the BlackBerry bounce messages to a
> specific
>> person.
>>
>>
>>
>> Disregard this initial message. I'm just sending out a message to get the
>> bounce from BlackBerry.
>>
>>
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