Re: [Xbox] 8 Simple Ways to Improve Xbox Live

I never said I liked it.  and, many people in the field are morons, that aren't opened minded, like console fanboys.  if microsoft made it, they hate it.  and most of the time the reasons they state, are wrong, it's so damn funny

From: Majestik

Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:06 PM

To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Xbox] 8 Simple Ways to Improve Xbox Live

Because I don't agree that it belongs on the 360, I didn't like that you gave your opinion? I don't like IE....and neither do the other people I encounter regularly....some of them are also "in the field". You, however, do like it ( but don't use it ). I never tried to take that from you. Why would I? This has to do with it being on my gaming console, and to that.....well:

I still only see reasons of pure laziness ( in my opinion ) being given for adding it to the console. The only other reason I can see, would be because "Sony did it".....and who here thinks M$ needs to compete with them on that?

It still seems like certain opinions here are attacked because they don't coincide with the "regulars"....which is why I don't reply to many threads here. A lot of the responses give me the "why bother" way of thinking. This place seemed cool enough when I checked out all of the Groups, and I thought it would be to my benefit to join and have some decent discussion. Doesn't seem to be the case when every little thing is taken out of context and then 'some' people are told to cut it out while others can do as they please. Like what this thread just turned in to for a little while - discussion of local bars and whatnot. God forbid the wrong people dared to do that....they'd be branded "a problem" and hung out to dry.

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 6:54 PM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote:

hey, u gave yours, we gave ours, and u didn't like that.  what i said about IE is indeed a fact, i've been developing web applications for about 12 years now, not just anything, but i've done full blown online reporting tools for glaxo-smith kline, Merck, microscan (siemens), and several others.  not to mention, IE is the fastest, best rendering browser out there, may not be the best browser, and, i don't use it personally, but that is a fact, like it or not

Majestik wrote:

Nah, man....it's just that I have noticed that anything said here that goes against what the "clique" thinks is right, is smacked down with a considerable amount of sarcasm and seems to be regarded as being "hostile" and/or "testy".

The question of a browser was posed, and opinion seemed to be asked for. i gave mine...and, in my short amount of time, I backed mine up with reasons. Never forced them on anyone and never painted any of what i said as "fact".

If you guys don't want opinions to be voiced....or at least ones that don't coincide with the rest of you, then why bother allowing people to join.

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 5:23 PM, PSCG Cleveland <pscgcleveland@gmail.com> wrote:

Yeeouch. Talkin about testy...

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Majestik <mystamajestik@gmail.com> wrote:
> My "incorrect assumption" is based on the facts around me. I don't know a
> single person who uses IE. Not ONE. At least half of them have gone through
> the trouble of removing it entirely from their machine(s).
>
> Again, I have 2 PCs for everything you listed there. And it really seems
> that laziness is what is making people feel the "need" to have a Browser on
> their 'box. "God forbid i have to get up"....seriously?
>
> Then again, maybe I just don't spend as much time in front of the 360 or the
> computer to need it all in one place. Besides the fact that you can only use
> one at a time....unless you know a way of using the 360 to do two things at
> once. With your PC ( and whatever browser you choose ) you can have both if
> you are one of those people who can't live without being "connected" at all
> times.
>
> I don't mind if anyone else wants it. Honestly, I don't care if you want it
> or not. I speak for myself and that's all I did. I also reiterate the
> sentiment of everyone I have spoken to about it and they feel the same way.
> I'm not trying to make you not want it....because, again, I wasn't asked
> what YOU want - nor do I care.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 10:30 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote:
>>
>> it's faster than what?
>>
>>
>> From: Aaron Berry
>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:27 AM
>> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Xbox] 8 Simple Ways to Improve Xbox Live
>> FireFox rules. It's faster, too!
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 07:57, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I use firefox, there are just extensions I can't live without
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Alex Atkin
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:47 PM
>>> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Xbox] 8 Simple Ways to Improve Xbox Live
>>> Which is why they got into trouble as people assumed they HAD to be using
>>> some
>>> top secret API commands that nobody else had access to.
>>>
>>> I don't think IE is too bad these days, but I prefer Firefox because I
>>> can run
>>> that on any OS with more or less the same results.
>>>
>>> I have a PC right next to the HDTV but when I have just been playing a
>>> game,
>>> or especially after watching a movie, sometimes you want to just fire up
>>> a
>>> browser without leaving your seat, although quite rare. But how many
>>> people
>>> have the PC exactly next to the TV?
>>>
>>> I do know my friends like to quickly check the sports results without
>>> having
>>> to mess around with the PC. Especially if they had just been playing
>>> FIFA
>>> and were about to leave, or while changing games. Just as I see them use
>>> messenger TONS on the 360, you really miss it when on the PS3. (which
>>> ironically has the browser)
>>>
>>> There are many occasions when a browser on the console is useful.
>>> Especially
>>> as there's a LOT more information on xbox.com than they offer on the
>>> dashboard/marketplace. Can't say I'm that bothered personally but then I
>>> have a Wii, PS3 and the PC hooked up to the TV so its not like I am
>>> missing a
>>> browser on the TV.
>>>
>>> Alex.
>>>
>>> On Thursday 07 August 2008 13:44:59 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
>>> > it also renders pages faster and better than any other browser on the
>>> > market, FACT!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > <http://profile.mygamercard.net/PRoPHeTiZeR>
>>> > <http://www.us.playstation.com/PSN/Users/PRoPHeTiZeR>
>>> >
>>> > Nelson (nelzp) wrote:
>>> > > Ya let's now get into a browser war considering IE still owns
>>> > > about 80% share. But I do agree, the 360 doesn't need a browser.
>>> > >
>>> > > thanks,
>>> > > Nelson
>>> > >
>>> > > <http://profile.mygamercard.net/nelzp>
>>> > > <http://www.us.playstation.com/PSN/Users/nelzp>
>>> > >
>>> > > *From:* Majestik <mailto:mystamajestik@gmail.com>
>>> > > *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:04 AM
>>> > > *To:* Xbox@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups.com>
>>> > > *Subject:* Re: [Xbox] 8 Simple Ways to Improve Xbox Live
>>> > >
>>> > > Numbers 1, 2 and 3 have no place or business being implemented. The
>>> > > rest I don't have a problem with, really....but those first three are
>>> > > completely unnecessary.
>>> > >
>>> > > 1. I'm in a Clan, so it would work for me. But, do you realize how
>>> > > many people AREN'T in one? Most of the subscriber-base, I would be
>>> > > willing to bet. It's time consuming, cumbersome and the dashboard (
>>> > > even with the Update ) doesn't need anything bogging it down that
>>> > > only
>>> > > a small % of people will use. Especially since nothing about it will
>>> > > bring them money.
>>> > >
>>> > > 2. A Browser is the LAST thing the 360 needs. For one, how many
>>> > > people
>>> > > still use IE? No one I know....and I'd be willing to make the
>>> > > assumption that the "360 Browser" wouldn't be even slightly better.
>>> > > Plus, 98% of the people who have Live! have a computer. Again,
>>> > > another
>>> > > addition that just isn't necessary to facilitate gaming needs. Maybe
>>> > > they should figure out how to make IE run on a PC before trying to
>>> > > bring it to a console.
>>> > >
>>> > > 3. I have several TVs....don't you?
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm out the door to work in about 5 minutes, but will be happy to
>>> > > elaborate later tonight. Especially on #2, as there are plenty more
>>> > > reasons why that idea is garbage...and has been since the first time
>>> > > I
>>> > > heard about it years ago.
>>> > >
>>> > > BTW - Nintendo isn't now, nor have they ever been, trying to "reach"
>>> > > M$ or Sony. Nor do they ever feel the need to compete.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Nelson (nelzp) <nelson@nelzp.com
>>> > > <mailto:nelson@nelzp.com>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > http://www.planetxbox360.com/articledetails/show/4397
>>> > >
>>> > > Being included among the 12 million Xbox Live members and
>>> > > counting, I can attest to the frustrations that come with Xbox
>>> > > Live every so often. With that said, let’s jump right into a
>>> > > few
>>> > > areas where Microsoft should focus their time on improving. Here
>>> > > are eight steps to help elevate Xbox Live to a place that Sony or
>>> > > Nintendo will find it hard to reach.
>>> > >
>>> > > *RSS Desc:* News, Games and Forums for the Xbox 360
>>> > > *RSS Link:* http://www.planetxbox360.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
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