I have mentioned it often enough in the group.
Alex.
On Tuesday 01 July 2008 18:28:45 PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> Alas some of those on the planet still do not enjoy the finer
> benefits of HDTV and resort to the Y-R-W hookups <Sigh>.
> And you'd be even more amazed at the masses who DO have
> HDTV's that have no idea how the hell to hook up anything but
> composite cables because they've been doing it for decades!
>
> But see your answer makes sense. Simple, says 'I don't have
> HDMI so I'm using this because I can without buying an Elite
> AND it has a better resolution and appearance on my God-like
> mondo LCD'. If we could only get that outta our pal across the
> pond, we'd sleep better at night, eh?
>
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:16 PM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote:
> > well, my 360 doesn't have HDMI, and the VGA looks better than component,
> > why would anyone use composite?
> >
> > PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> >
> > LOL, well ya know... Canadians get butt-naked and Brits can't
> > figure out buttons so what are we poor air-conditioned Americans
> > supposed to do? Logic says ya, quit screwing with what doesn't
> > work and use what does, but apparently we're not logical.
> > But I mean he even left out the part where he's tried one of the
> > HDTV cables and it works AOK, but just not that resolution with
> > the VGA cable. Or, that neither works and maybe it's a junk TV
> > as we've seen some manufacturers kick out. Samsung's got all
> > kinda hi-res issues with compatibility as an example. But we're
> > not privileged enough to know these little details.
> > Still I want to know what the big deal/advantage is to running
> > the VGA over the HDMI or Composite. I know the difference of
> > those two, if you have a decent HDTV with a proper HDMI
> > processor it's shoving raw data to the TV like mad, nearly taking
> > any thoughts of lag out. But some cheap chipsets and older
> > HDMI circuits/programming actually make it worse if the source
> > can shove pure HDMI down the pipe.
> > But VGA? At best that'd fall somewhere between Composite
> > and HDMI when hooked to a TV, we've had a few run that way
> > and the settings showed we were better with one designed for
> > a PC than a TV rigged as a monitor.
> > Inquiring minds wanna know, but you'd better get dressed
> > first because I pay my monthly donations to your cult for your
> > mind, not your body! <Grin>
> > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:45 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > well, i know his TV is 768p native, so if he would just use that, since
> > he said it worked, and not 1080p, LMAO
> > PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> > Ya, I just looked it up to be sure... That's a freakin VGA DSUB-15 PC
> > monitor-style hookup. Not composite or component. So first since Alex
> > loves to skimp details we gotta find out if he's using the official cable
> > or some knock-off, then the TV he's using to deal with it. Didn't bother
> > to mention all those nice details that might help him get an answer.
> > Obviously it's going to be a little harder since he's not in the US to
> > find someone running the same stuff, so it's hard to pin down the
> > problem. He's tucked away in his bed for a couple more hours now, then
> > we'll hopefully get some realistic information.
> > One thing that's buggin me is the 768p bit, since it's 720p as a norm
> > at least here in the US. So if it's working but at a funky base
> > resolution for him it's possible his TV can't deal with the higher res
> > because it's not tying to put out 1080p/i but some other weird multiple?
> > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:24 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net>
> > wrote: i'm using the official microsoft xbox 360 VGA cable
> > PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> > What you talkin bout Willis...
> > I saw the 'over VGA' part, but there's an SDTV cable and the HDTV
> > cable. Ain't no VGA in the freakin house unless you're using a VGA
> > conversion cable from the aftermarket to shove it to VGA DSUB15
> > inputs on a monitor OR some TV's like the Vizio's we have that provide
> > tons of input.
> > But again, let's say he's using the conversion cable and plugging it
> > into the VGA port on an LCD TV. Eh, why? Some funky new UK
> > trick we're not enlightened on? Smart money says don't be a dope
> > and shove it out HDMI-style and be done with it, gonna pump better
> > data rates that stock VGA anyways.
> > Thusly, I don't get what he's up to, but ya know that's normal...
> > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:03 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net>
> > wrote: no, it's for his TV, he's using the xbox 360 VGA cable to attach
> > to his LCD TV, he said over VGA, meaning over the cable, not the device
> > PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> > He said VGA Proph... not TV.
> > Why are you using VGA anyways? Just out of curiosity, I mean do you
> > have a large PC monitor or something? And how are you generating your
> > VGA signal, whatever you have for that could very well be the cause of
> > your problems. VGA monitors are touchy and if you don't have the
> > frequency set up right to match the resolution you'd get garbage results
> > like that. Not sure what UK freq's are compared to the US, but check
> > that setting and also see if you can tell us what's up with the output.
> > VGA should be using a DSUB15, if you have a PC monitor that has
> > Composite inputs and you're using that - again that could be something
> > your monitor's not capable of or needs a different freq setting to
> > unscramble the thing.
> > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:13 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote:
> > works for me on my SAWEET 61" LED DLP, 1080p
> > maybe you should just use 768p since thats the native res of your tv? i
> > dunno, but that makes sense to me
> > Alex Atkin wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > Does anyone else use their 360 at 1080p over VGA because I found a nasty
> > bug
> > on mine at those settings?
> > Inside Xbox doesn't work. I just get a screen full of garbage and the
> > audio
> > as normal. It works fine if I drop the resolution back to 768p but fails
> > every time at 1080p. Everything else seems to work fine at 1080p, its
> > quite
> > odd. First time it happened I thought the GPU had packed up.
> > Alex.
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