resolution too.
Its very useful on the PS3 as it means you have the best settings for Blu-ray
(because it runs at 1080p 24Hz) while also having different settings for
games (1080p 60Hz). I'm not 100% sure 720p and 1080p have their own
settings, I never thought to check. Will obviously learn the quirks once I
get my replacement.
Alex.
On Wednesday 09 July 2008 14:27:56 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> cool, you need to do this per input though. i use DVE to get basic
> adjustment, then i adjust to my liking.
>
> i havne't found out how to do this with my cable box yet though lol
>
> Alex Atkin wrote:
> > Well Cinema mode is based around D65 supposedly. Perhaps not
> > pre-calibrated as such, seeing as calibration is about setting your TV to
> > match your equipment so it can NEVER be perfect out of the box, depends
> > if your equipment is based around the standard too.
> >
> > What I meant was its known to be pretty close by default which is
> > probably close enough for me.
> >
> > "Well here are my final settings for HDMI (from upscaling Sony DVD
> > player). Backlight 20
> > Contrast 100
> > Brightness 55
> > Sharpness 0
> > Colour 49
> > Tint G2
> > Colour Temp Medium
> > Flesh Contrast Off
> > Flesh Colour Off
> > Noise Reduction Off
> > Gamma Medium
> > Black Low
> > Eye Care Off
> > Real Cinema Off
> > TruMotion Low
> >
> > The only thing to "tweak" is the backlight according to the ambient light
> > in the room.
> >
> > These settings were arrived at using the DVE disc and the RGB colour
> > filters.
> >
> > It's amazing how close to D65 this set can get (on the standard picture
> > setting) by simply adjusting the main colour setting and the tint a
> > fraction."
> >
> > Alex.
> >
> > On Tuesday 08 July 2008 22:01:51 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> >> LG pre-calibrated?
> >>
> >> maybe it's true, maybe it's not, if it is, then thats the first time in
> >> history, TVs are pre-calibrated for showroom floors, not the home user.
> >> i just did a quick search at avsforum and don't see anything your
> >> mentioning, if it was true, it would be there.
> >>
> >> Alex Atkin wrote:
> >>> I never said I did calibrate it right. I only calibrate to what looks
> >>> good to me, not standards. The LG however is supposed to be
> >>> pre-calibrated almost perfectly to certain Blu-ray players according to
> >>> reports online from people who checked it using something like video
> >>> essentials or whatever its called.
> >>>
> >>> I found before I packed it up that sticking it on Cinema mode and
> >>> cranking the backlight on to full (I hate Cinema brightness even in the
> >>> Cinema, its too dull and makes me tired) looked fine to me for Blu-ray
> >>> playback.
> >>>
> >>> But anyway yeah my Samsung probably is not optimal whereas the LG
> >>> pretty much is out of the box. It doesn't alter the fact that the LG
> >>> is 2 years newer technology and an IPS panel rather than the PVA the
> >>> Samsung has, so will always look a damn site better than the Samsung.
> >>> This is heavily helped by PAL Half-HDTVs stupid habit of being 768p
> >>> instead of 720p and only accepting 720p or 1080i/p (my Samsung does not
> >>> support 1080p input, slightly too old) over HDMI.
> >>>
> >>> Going back to the Samsung feels REALLY laggy. On the LG you can pan
> >>> the camera around in GTA with fairly good clarity, the Samsung on the
> >>> other hand makes you dizzy and hard to see with a clearly slower
> >>> response time - either the panel or software, probably both.
> >>>
> >>> We could argue about which manufacturer is better, quite frankly it
> >>> would be silly as I make no claims to know. I just know the LG panels
> >>> I have seen look "good enough" to me and Vizios are only sold in the US
> >>> from what I can tell. A friend of mine has a "budget range" 37" 1080p
> >>> HDTV and I didn't even realise it was 1080p because it looks like ass.
> >>> The colours are terrible, its dull, just about any bad point you care
> >>> to name. Plus its not as if Inside Xbox is worth buying a different TV
> >>> for even if it WAS the TV at fault, which I doubt it is.
> >>>
> >>> Alex.
> >>>
> >>> On Tuesday 08 July 2008 12:47:48 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> >>>> maybe u never calibrated it right, i can easily see how you wouldn't
> >>>> know how to do that properly, but still thinking that u did it
> >>>> perfectly
> >>>>
> >>>> Alex Atkin wrote:
> >>>>> Well perhaps its an unfair comparison, but my 2 year old Samsung
> >>>>> cannot get close to the picture quality/vibrant images of a 6 month
> >>>>> only, smaller, cheaper, LG.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In fact I would go so far as to say my Samsung looks dull, washed out
> >>>>> and generally not very nice at all. But then, LCD technology likely
> >>>>> improved a lot in the last 2 years so its not really a surprise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Put it this way. The latest model LG kicks the living daylights out
> >>>>> of my old Samsung. Also, its up to $600 less than the 2" smaller
> >>>>> equivalent Samsung in the shops right now. So why wouldn't I favour
> >>>>> it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alex.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Monday 07 July 2008 14:39:43 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> >>>>>> LG are the lower end of LCD's, so i don't care how many they make,
> >>>>>> quantity doesn't equal quality. samsung may have LCD issues, but
> >>>>>> they do make some of the best LCD screens, they just have software
> >>>>>> issues, which is too bad
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> >>>>>>> It was a sane answer, might've sounded insane to you but to at
> >>>>>>> least the two of us it's normality. Yes, the Samsung's a mess on
> >>>>>>> more than just the software side - no argument.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But, what you describe as pluses for the LG's - stock stuff on
> >>>>>>> the Vizios we use that we've beat the living (#$* out of and never
> >>>>>>> had any issues like this. All resolutions, multiple formats -
> >>>>>>> never a dropout or glitch like you describe. Doesn't mean it's not
> >>>>>>> happening, just that the Vizio's aren't doing it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Just to be fair and balanced, not making it look like I love to
> >>>>>>> just poke you in the eye for fun and sport, I'm getting my hands on
> >>>>>>> that exact cable and I'm going to give it a whirl with exactly what
> >>>>>>> you've described on both the Vizio's I have working and also my
> >>>>>>> personally annoying Olevia/Syntax Brillian 32" as well to see if
> >>>>>>> the same thing pops up.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And in response, I wasn't planning on giving you a solution - I
> >>>>>>> was asking for those details to be able to duplicate it on other
> >>>>>>> setups and see if there is a true glitch or possibly just one on
> >>>>>>> your model of TV OR if it's just you and you're cursed. The
> >>>>>>> details you originally gave is more like 'my ass hurts' and not 'my
> >>>>>>> butt hurts when I sit on a metal table and it's -30f outside in the
> >>>>>>> wintertime' which helps duplicate the environment.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Since my Vizio's are on the road all the time in all kinds of
> >>>>>>> temps and weather/power conditions if I asked the same thing no one
> >>>>>>> would probably have the same issues. The Olevia's inside and
> >>>>>>> stable, so that'd be a totally different environment. We've
> >>>>>>> already noticed a difference in the calibration of Guitar Hero
> >>>>>>> III's w/the Les Paul's and the Vizios depending on what kind of
> >>>>>>> power is being supplied to it. Up to 18ms off in some cases. So
> >>>>>>> that's why I asked where the rest of the info is, to see if it's
> >>>>>>> something bigger you can't fix or something in your setups to
> >>>>>>> investigate.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you'd rather just have Proph and me poke ya and never really
> >>>>>>> respond to your posts when you ask for help or information, hey
> >>>>>>> just ask! LOL
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Alex Atkin <yahoo@maewhitman.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Of course, the second largest panel producer MUST be the problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Seriously, the LG from what I have seen has FAR better software
> >>>>>>>> than other manufacturers. The Samsung remote and software is just
> >>>>>>>> pathetic. You couldnt easily jump from EXT1 to HDMI, you had to
> >>>>>>>> keep slowly (it would take about a second to respond) pressing the
> >>>>>>>> input select button.. The LG you press input select and it gives
> >>>>>>>> you a list.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The ONLY problems with the LG are ghosting on all inputs (all TVs
> >>>>>>>> do it from what I hear, its some bullshit to do with motion
> >>>>>>>> compensation, its not too noticable from a sane viewing distance
> >>>>>>>> thankfully) and problems in 100Hz mode
> >>>>>>>> with fast motion, but I think thats just the nature of trying to
> >>>>>>>> generate an extra frame from 2 frames - you are gonna get
> >>>>>>>> artifacts.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So yeah please give a SANE answer. I am 99% sure this is the 360
> >>>>>>>> at fault because the corruption is coming in clear, it just looks
> >>>>>>>> like a GPU crash to be honest but its not - because it works fine
> >>>>>>>> if you then exit back out. Like I said, its clearly not the TV as
> >>>>>>>> you well know once the 360 is set to a
> >>>>>>>> resolution it ALWAYS outputs that resolution. If the TV couldnt
> >>>>>>>> handle 1080p then ALL output at 1080p from the 360 would be
> >>>>>>>> affected, its purely some sort
> >>>>>>>> of problem upscaling Inside Xbox to 1080p over VGA on my xbox.
> >>>>>>>> Very odd.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Mind you its not half as bad as the PS3. The 2.40 firmware update
> >>>>>>>> just broke the ability to steam AVIs, although some people had far
> >>>>>>>> worse issues needing a format of the hard drive in a PC to
> >>>>>>>> recover.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Alex.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sunday 06 July 2008 17:54:05 PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Heh, well you said it...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> But why poor ole' LG? Zenith did so well slapping their nameplate
> >>>>>>>>> on'em in the beginning, same with some other lower brands that ya
> >>>>>>>>> know, 'never had issues'.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Remember LG - Life's Good... when ya don't buy one.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:50 PM, PRoPHeTiZeR
> >>>>>>>>> <prophetizer@wrup.net>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> yes
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> LOL, what the LG? <Grin>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM, PRoPHeTiZeR
> >>>>>>>>>> <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> theres your problem
> >>>>>>>>>> Alex Atkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Bingo, EXACTLY why I am using it too.
> >>>>>>>>>> Its not the TV as Virtua Tennis 3 runs at 1080p perfectly as do
> >>>>>>>>>> playing HD-DVD
> >>>>>>>>>> movies. Like I said, its ONLY Inside Xbox.
> >>>>>>>>>> I failed to give details because I wasn't asking for a fix, just
> >>>>>>>>>> curious if anyone else had the same glitch. For the record, this
> >>>>>>>>>> is the 42LG6000 my NEW
> >>>>>>>>>> TV.
> >>>>>>>>>> Alex.
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday 01 July 2008 18:16:35 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> well, my 360 doesn't have HDMI, and the VGA looks better than
> >>>>>>>>>> component, why would anyone use composite?
> >>>>>>>>>> PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> LOL, well ya know... Canadians get butt-naked and Brits can't
> >>>>>>>>>> figure out buttons so what are we poor air-conditioned Americans
> >>>>>>>>>> supposed to do? Logic says ya, quit screwing with what doesn't
> >>>>>>>>>> work and use what does, but apparently we're not logical.
> >>>>>>>>>>
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