Re: [Xbox] Next Xbox?

lol, wait a minute, this is a 360 list?

PSCG Cleveland wrote:

  Ahhhh. you not see what in front of you...    Was it rude?  Ya.  Is he serious?  Kinda.  Do we all love him because he's a smartass and your life will get that much better when you learn that fact and not waste more time being his favorite meat puppet?  Prolly.  I learned, now I am in his cult.  That's why I mentioned the 45 seconds I'll never get back, which has grown to like 2 minutes... and I'm keeping track too!  One day, one day I'll get my minutes back!  You lucky freakin UK rummies, you get rollover minutes like candy.  Us here in American, Home of the Free and AT&T?  We gotta pay for'em.  That's why we turn up our A/C units to high all year round and drain the grid, we ain't had any really good action in real life since 9-11 or OJ to make us tear ourselves away from the PC's and consoles to sit for hours on end watching real carnage on CNN or FOXNews (SkyNews to you).    I mean I used to come here for the 360 discussions.  Now I just tune in to see when Proph's gonna play you like a banjo tuned up too tight and make you dance.  Remember, if you don't dance, it's just not fun.  On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Alex Atkin <yahoo@maewhitman.com> wrote:   

I think its more likely to be a LACK of using the HD to cache, as they still need to support people using memory cards. They also can't use RAM because of their own restrictions on how much RAM the dashboard is allowed to use.  So it mights take a lot more effort than it appears on the surface to cache more data. It doesn't make it any more less of a screw-up though, they should have thought of this when they launched marketplace rather than panicking now its become too popular to maintain.  As for losing time reading posts, well this IS a discussion list. If reading other peoples posts is a waste of time then why be a member of the group in the first place? (I am directing this comment mostly at Proph) There are posts I immediately know are not talking about stuff I am interested in, so I ignore them. Its just plain rude to TELL SOMEONE that you just ignored their comments is all.  Alex.  On Thursday 26 June 2008 00:39:21 PSCG Cleveland wrote:     

I read it all, it's just that Proph got to keep the 45 seconds of his life that I'll never get back by taking a shortcut. <Grin>  Least we can do is see what they do to the Dashboard this round before condemning it. MS almost invented load-balancing so it's not like they don't have the hardware and software to support a giant library to download, probably more like limits on 360's as they sit right now with so many 20GB HDD's out there to preload the cached graphics so they slam up fast instead of waiting to suck'em down all the time.  On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Alex Atkin <yahoo@maewhitman.com> wrote:       

See that's just plain ignorant. By all means ignore my posts but to actually TELL ME you ignored it is extremely rude.  Anyway, what I read was that Microsoft haven't a clue how to fix the problem hence the de-listing arcade titles. Seeing as there is no other logical reason to remove titles from marketplace, except perhaps as an excuse to re-release them later in a hope of boosting sales. Sounds very Disney DVD to me.  Alex.  On Wednesday 25 June 2008 21:42:38 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:         

only read your first paragraph, and stopped, since MS already said they are working on that. so i assume the rest of your email is a useless as the first paragraph.  Alex Atkin wrote:           

Microsoft need to step up their game plan for sure. I love the 360 dashboard but with each update so far they are making it more and more complicated/annoying to use. By comparison the PS3 is plain sailing.  The 360 was originally a very easy dashboard to operate, but there's just too much content now - not even counting marketplace itself which is plain terrible. De-listing Arcade game is not going to solve that problem.  Another thing that annoys me as you already know, the noise level. The 360 is a VERY noisy HD-DVD player and when playing on low volume its very annoying indeed. If you have a home cinema you are all set, but my room is nothing close to that size and I have to keep the volume sane so can never drown out the noise of the 360 fans. In many ways its easier to ignore during games as you are concentrating harder, but even then its annoying as the DVD-ROM drive makes it even worse.  The PS3? From what I hear its next to silent playing games or Blu-ray movies. So even if we get a 360 Blu-ray drive I think I will get a PS3 instead. Ideally I would kinda prefer a combo drive so I don't need the 360 noise for HD-DVD either, but apparently they are no longer manufacturing those plus they are too expensive. If I am going to spend £300 I want a games console thrown in especially as I can always throw Linux on it too and there is Playstation Home which I admit appeals to me, if it ever launches.  Alex.  On Tuesday 24 June 2008 23:56:10 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:             

lol, ps3 is a POS, man, don't think so  PogoWolf wrote:               

At this point none of that matters. The issue that M$ is faceing is the fact that even though the PS3 is a POS.. it is a really cheap (like cheapest) Blu-ray player. and now that the 360 is pretty much past it's prime, and losing sales because it's no longer 'new', the PS3 sales are going to jump.. and jump quickly (like they are in Europe) This will in turn give the PS3 more market share and 'force' 3rd party developers to figure out the hardware and make some games for the system.  Right now the only things the 360 has going for it is a large established user base, easy to program hardware, and a networking system that works most of the time. But nothing 'new'.  If M$ wants to keep up the pressure on Sony they need to release the next version sooner rather then later. Right now we know that M$ has ordered blu-ray drives, and we know they are working on a Wii style of remote. We also know they dropped this years spring up date to 'work on other things'  So here's the idea.. M$ creates a new 360, with blu-ray support, and the 'Wiimote' looking thing. updates the hardware to allow for DVR capablites and a MUCH bigger drive, removes the DNR BS from movies to allow a direct connection into someones home network, and updates LIVE to allow for Streaming Movies (Via NetFlicks) , TV (MSNBC?), and Audio (URGE).  they don't need really to update the graphics at this point, because it's still going to be a few years until anyone really figures out the hardware of the PS3 and then figures out that it doesn't matter because the PS3 can't push the polys. now the audio because pretty much sound is sound at this point.  and it puts a new Xbox in front of the people to keep the brand going until they can release the next-gen version of the xbox in a few years.        On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:52 AM, PSCG Cleveland <pscgcleveland@gmail.com <mailto:pscgcleveland@gmail.com>> wrote:  But... that'd still be the 360, no? Sounded like he was asking about the mysterious 720 that I agree with Nelson is a few years off. They're riding high on things right now and the PS3 doesn't have enough of any edge to it to cause them to search for better GPU's.  Not to mention if AMD doesn't kill themselves the 360's AMD/ATI loaded and those nutballs are working on a new gen of all-in-one chip that'd give any '720' game console the ability to be triple-core CPU, triple GPU in the same space. Right now it's tri-core, single ATI GPU. But they're at least a year from perfecting it, producing it and letting it test out on PC's and laptops before MS would want to get tangled up with it. They just payed through the nose on this screw-up, they're going to want time-tested before doing it again, wouldn't you think?    On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:33 AM, PogoWolf <pogowolf@gmail.com  <mailto:pogowolf%40gmail.com>> wrote:                 

I'm thinking late next year (2009).. Pretty much it'll be an Xbox 360 with better networkign support,                   

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support, and 100% BC to the 360. kinda like a 'Media edition'                   

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gives a poop. LOL   On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Nelson (nelzp)                   

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I think we still have a few more years to go on the current one. thanks, Nelson   From: David Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:57 PM To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Xbox%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Xbox] Next Xbox? any idea when the next xbox is coming out?   ------------------------------------  ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Xbox Group Contents and Images (c) All rights reserved. No  reproduction or replication in any form, including posts/pics,                     

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