Wednesday, June 25, 2008

Re: [Xbox] Next Xbox?

A few weeks ago, someone from MS agreed that it was hard to find stuff on Marketplace and that they we working on making it better.

thanks,
Nelson

 

From: Alex Atkin
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Xbox] Next Xbox?

See that's just plain ignorant.  By all means ignore my posts but to actually
TELL ME you ignored it is extremely rude.

Anyway, what I read was that Microsoft haven't a clue how to fix the problem
hence the de-listing arcade titles.  Seeing as there is no other logical
reason to remove titles from marketplace, except perhaps as an excuse to
re-release them later in a hope of boosting sales.  Sounds very Disney DVD to
me.

Alex.

On Wednesday 25 June 2008 21:42:38 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> only read your first paragraph, and stopped, since MS already said they
> are working on that.  so i assume the rest of your email is a useless as
> the first paragraph.
>
> Alex Atkin wrote:
> > Microsoft need to step up their game plan for sure.  I love the 360
> > dashboard but with each update so far they are making it more and more
> > complicated/annoying to use.  By comparison the PS3 is plain sailing.
> >
> > The 360 was originally a very easy dashboard to operate, but there's just
> > too much content now - not even counting marketplace itself which is
> > plain terrible.  De-listing Arcade game is not going to solve that
> > problem.
> >
> > Another thing that annoys me as you already know, the noise level.  The
> > 360 is a VERY noisy HD-DVD player and when playing on low volume its very
> > annoying indeed.  If you have a home cinema you are all set, but my room
> > is nothing close to that size and I have to keep the volume sane so can
> > never drown out the noise of the 360 fans.  In many ways its easier to
> > ignore during games as you are concentrating harder, but even then its
> > annoying as the DVD-ROM drive makes it even worse.
> >
> > The PS3?  From what I hear its next to silent playing games or Blu-ray
> > movies. So even if we get a 360 Blu-ray drive I think I will get a PS3
> > instead. Ideally I would kinda prefer a combo drive so I don't need the
> > 360 noise for HD-DVD either, but apparently they are no longer
> > manufacturing those plus they are too expensive.  If I am going to spend
> > £300 I want a games console thrown in especially as I can always throw
> > Linux on it too and there is Playstation Home which I admit appeals to
> > me, if it ever launches.
> >
> > Alex.
> >
> > On Tuesday 24 June 2008 23:56:10 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> >> lol, ps3 is a POS, man, don't think so
> >>
> >> PogoWolf wrote:
> >>> At this point none of that matters.  The issue that M$ is faceing is
> >>> the fact that
> >>> even though the PS3 is a POS.. it is a really cheap (like cheapest)
> >>> Blu-ray player.
> >>> and now that the 360 is pretty much past it's prime, and losing sales
> >>> because
> >>> it's no longer 'new', the PS3 sales are going to jump.. and jump
> >>> quickly (like they are in Europe)
> >>> This will in turn give the PS3 more market share and 'force' 3rd party
> >>> developers to figure out the
> >>> hardware and make some games for the system.
> >>>
> >>> Right now the only things the 360 has going for it is a large
> >>> established user base, easy to program
> >>> hardware, and a networking system that works most of the time.  But
> >>> nothing 'new'.
> >>>
> >>> If M$ wants to keep up the pressure on Sony they need to release the
> >>> next version sooner rather then
> >>> later.  Right now we know that M$ has ordered blu-ray drives, and we
> >>> know they are working on a
> >>> Wii style of remote.   We also know they dropped this years spring up
> >>> date to 'work on other things'
> >>>
> >>> So here's the idea.. M$ creates a new 360, with blu-ray support, and
> >>> the 'Wiimote' looking thing.
> >>> updates the hardware to allow for DVR capablites and a MUCH bigger
> >>> drive, removes the DNR BS from
> >>> movies to allow a direct connection into someones home network, and
> >>> updates LIVE to allow for Streaming Movies
> >>> (Via NetFlicks) , TV (MSNBC?), and Audio (URGE).
> >>>
> >>> they don't need really to update the graphics at this point, because
> >>> it's still going to be a few years until
> >>> anyone really figures out the hardware of the PS3 and then figures out
> >>> that it doesn't matter because
> >>> the PS3 can't push the polys.  now the audio because pretty much sound
> >>> is sound at this point.
> >>>
> >>> and it puts a new Xbox in front of the people to keep the brand going
> >>> until they can release the next-gen
> >>> version of the xbox in a few years.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:52 AM, PSCG Cleveland
> >>> <pscgcleveland@gmail.com <mailto:pscgcleveland@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     But... that'd still be the 360, no? Sounded like he was asking
> >>>     about the
> >>>     mysterious 720 that I agree with Nelson is a few years off.
> >>>     They're riding
> >>>     high on things right now and the PS3 doesn't have enough of any
> >>>     edge to
> >>>     it to cause them to search for better GPU's.
> >>>
> >>>     Not to mention if AMD doesn't kill themselves the 360's AMD/ATI
> >>> loaded and those nutballs are working on a new gen of all-in-one chip
> >>> that'd give
> >>>     any '720' game console the ability to be triple-core CPU, triple
> >>>     GPU in the
> >>>     same space. Right now it's tri-core, single ATI GPU. But they're
> >>>     at least
> >>>     a year from perfecting it, producing it and letting it test out on
> >>>     PC's and
> >>>     laptops before MS would want to get tangled up with it. They just
> >>>     payed
> >>>     through the nose on this screw-up, they're going to want
> >>>     time-tested before
> >>>     doing it again, wouldn't you think?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:33 AM, PogoWolf <pogowolf@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>     <mailto:pogowolf%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>     > I'm thinking late next year (2009)..
> >>>     > Pretty much it'll be an Xbox 360 with better networkign support,
> >>>
> >>>     Blu-ray
> >>>
> >>>     > support, and 100% BC to the 360. kinda like a 'Media edition'
> >>>
> >>>     version of
> >>>
> >>>     > the 360. and yes, I'll argue my reasons for the thought to
> >>>
> >>>     anyone that
> >>>
> >>>     > gives a poop. LOL
> >>>     >
> >>>     >
> >>>     > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Nelson (nelzp)
> >>>
> >>>     <nelson@nelzp.com <mailto:nelson%40nelzp.com>> wrote:
> >>>     >> I think we still have a few more years to go on the current one.
> >>>     >> thanks,
> >>>     >> Nelson
> >>>     >>
> >>>     >>
> >>>     >> From: David
> >>>     >> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:57 PM
> >>>     >> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Xbox%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>     >> Subject: [Xbox] Next Xbox?
> >>>     >> any idea when the next xbox is coming out?
> >>>     >>
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