lost for HOW to make it better. It just seems it would make more sense to
make it better THEN decide if they are going to de-list titles. As if its a
big enough improvement, the de-listing should never be necessary.
Or perhaps the de-listing was all about getting our opinion without actually
asking us. I bet its a lot easier to get feedback by saying "we are going to
do this" than by asking "do you think we should do this". People in general
do tend to ignore stuff and hope it goes away Its only when it clearly is
effecting them that they begin to complain.
Alex.
On Thursday 26 June 2008 00:39:55 Nelson (nelzp) wrote:
> A few weeks ago, someone from MS agreed that it was hard to find stuff on
> Marketplace and that they we working on making it better.
>
> thanks,
> Nelson
>
>
>
>
> From: Alex Atkin
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:25 PM
> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Next Xbox?
>
>
> See that's just plain ignorant. By all means ignore my posts but to
> actually TELL ME you ignored it is extremely rude.
>
> Anyway, what I read was that Microsoft haven't a clue how to fix the
> problem hence the de-listing arcade titles. Seeing as there is no other
> logical reason to remove titles from marketplace, except perhaps as an
> excuse to re-release them later in a hope of boosting sales. Sounds very
> Disney DVD to me.
>
> Alex.
>
> On Wednesday 25 June 2008 21:42:38 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> > only read your first paragraph, and stopped, since MS already said they
> > are working on that. so i assume the rest of your email is a useless as
> > the first paragraph.
> >
> > Alex Atkin wrote:
> > > Microsoft need to step up their game plan for sure. I love the 360
> > > dashboard but with each update so far they are making it more and more
> > > complicated/annoying to use. By comparison the PS3 is plain sailing.
> > >
> > > The 360 was originally a very easy dashboard to operate, but there's
> > > just too much content now - not even counting marketplace itself which
> > > is plain terrible. De-listing Arcade game is not going to solve that
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > Another thing that annoys me as you already know, the noise level. The
> > > 360 is a VERY noisy HD-DVD player and when playing on low volume its
> > > very annoying indeed. If you have a home cinema you are all set, but
> > > my room is nothing close to that size and I have to keep the volume
> > > sane so can never drown out the noise of the 360 fans. In many ways
> > > its easier to ignore during games as you are concentrating harder, but
> > > even then its annoying as the DVD-ROM drive makes it even worse.
> > >
> > > The PS3? From what I hear its next to silent playing games or Blu-ray
> > > movies. So even if we get a 360 Blu-ray drive I think I will get a PS3
> > > instead. Ideally I would kinda prefer a combo drive so I don't need the
> > > 360 noise for HD-DVD either, but apparently they are no longer
> > > manufacturing those plus they are too expensive. If I am going to
> > > spend £300 I want a games console thrown in especially as I can always
> > > throw Linux on it too and there is Playstation Home which I admit
> > > appeals to me, if it ever launches.
> > >
> > > Alex.
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 24 June 2008 23:56:10 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> > >> lol, ps3 is a POS, man, don't think so
> > >>
> > >> PogoWolf wrote:
> > >>> At this point none of that matters. The issue that M$ is faceing is
> > >>> the fact that
> > >>> even though the PS3 is a POS.. it is a really cheap (like cheapest)
> > >>> Blu-ray player.
> > >>> and now that the 360 is pretty much past it's prime, and losing sales
> > >>> because
> > >>> it's no longer 'new', the PS3 sales are going to jump.. and jump
> > >>> quickly (like they are in Europe)
> > >>> This will in turn give the PS3 more market share and 'force' 3rd
> > >>> party developers to figure out the
> > >>> hardware and make some games for the system.
> > >>>
> > >>> Right now the only things the 360 has going for it is a large
> > >>> established user base, easy to program
> > >>> hardware, and a networking system that works most of the time. But
> > >>> nothing 'new'.
> > >>>
> > >>> If M$ wants to keep up the pressure on Sony they need to release the
> > >>> next version sooner rather then
> > >>> later. Right now we know that M$ has ordered blu-ray drives, and we
> > >>> know they are working on a
> > >>> Wii style of remote. We also know they dropped this years spring up
> > >>> date to 'work on other things'
> > >>>
> > >>> So here's the idea.. M$ creates a new 360, with blu-ray support, and
> > >>> the 'Wiimote' looking thing.
> > >>> updates the hardware to allow for DVR capablites and a MUCH bigger
> > >>> drive, removes the DNR BS from
> > >>> movies to allow a direct connection into someones home network, and
> > >>> updates LIVE to allow for Streaming Movies
> > >>> (Via NetFlicks) , TV (MSNBC?), and Audio (URGE).
> > >>>
> > >>> they don't need really to update the graphics at this point, because
> > >>> it's still going to be a few years until
> > >>> anyone really figures out the hardware of the PS3 and then figures
> > >>> out that it doesn't matter because
> > >>> the PS3 can't push the polys. now the audio because pretty much
> > >>> sound is sound at this point.
> > >>>
> > >>> and it puts a new Xbox in front of the people to keep the brand going
> > >>> until they can release the next-gen
> > >>> version of the xbox in a few years.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:52 AM, PSCG Cleveland
> > >>> <pscgcleveland@gmail.com <mailto:pscgcleveland@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> But... that'd still be the 360, no? Sounded like he was asking
> > >>> about the
> > >>> mysterious 720 that I agree with Nelson is a few years off.
> > >>> They're riding
> > >>> high on things right now and the PS3 doesn't have enough of any
> > >>> edge to
> > >>> it to cause them to search for better GPU's.
> > >>>
> > >>> Not to mention if AMD doesn't kill themselves the 360's AMD/ATI
> > >>> loaded and those nutballs are working on a new gen of all-in-one chip
> > >>> that'd give
> > >>> any '720' game console the ability to be triple-core CPU, triple
> > >>> GPU in the
> > >>> same space. Right now it's tri-core, single ATI GPU. But they're
> > >>> at least
> > >>> a year from perfecting it, producing it and letting it test out
> > >>> on PC's and
> > >>> laptops before MS would want to get tangled up with it. They just
> > >>> payed
> > >>> through the nose on this screw-up, they're going to want
> > >>> time-tested before
> > >>> doing it again, wouldn't you think?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:33 AM, PogoWolf <pogowolf@gmail.com
> > >>>
> > >>> <mailto:pogowolf%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>> > I'm thinking late next year (2009)..
> > >>> > Pretty much it'll be an Xbox 360 with better networkign
> > >>> > support,
> > >>>
> > >>> Blu-ray
> > >>>
> > >>> > support, and 100% BC to the 360. kinda like a 'Media edition'
> > >>>
> > >>> version of
> > >>>
> > >>> > the 360. and yes, I'll argue my reasons for the thought to
> > >>>
> > >>> anyone that
> > >>>
> > >>> > gives a poop. LOL
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Nelson (nelzp)
> > >>>
> > >>> <nelson@nelzp.com <mailto:nelson%40nelzp.com>> wrote:
> > >>> >> I think we still have a few more years to go on the current
> > >>> >> one. thanks,
> > >>> >> Nelson
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> From: David
> > >>> >> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:57 PM
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> > >>> >> Subject: [Xbox] Next Xbox?
> > >>> >> any idea when the next xbox is coming out?
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