one store that did had it setup by LG themselves (or so they claimed) so they
wouldn't let me check the settings or anything. It was just running a crappy
Blu-ray advert loop over component, split on to 4 TVs. So the only
comparison I could do was between it and the smaller version and the Plasma
version.
Its not like component would actually show off the TV, never mind the fact it
was split which always reduces quality.
For the record I have played PS2 on the LG and again, no lag that I could
tell. And people used to claim they couldn't notice the lag on my Samsung
but it was HUGELY obvious to me.
Bear in mind this is the latest model LG, I cannot comment on older models.
I think its fair to say all makes have good and bad models, but I would say
the LG Scarlet is a good one - apart from the fact the bottom of the TV is
HUGE. I don't particularly like the design, but when I'm watching Blu-ray I
don't exactly sit staring at the casing so who cares.
Alex.
On Friday 11 July 2008 14:29:35 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> i was at best buy yesterday, they have some tv's on display that they
> get ISF calibration done to show customers exactly how it looks at it's
> best, thats pretty cool
>
> Alex Atkin wrote:
> > I always get them mixed up, having similar names.
> >
> > Obviously its not concrete proof of anything, but its a good sign that
> > other people have positive things to say. I certainly felt the picture
> > was a lot better than my old TV no matter how much tinkering I tried.
> > But my old TV also seems to take some time to warm up, the response time
> > seems to improve an the backlight get brighter once its warmed up.
> >
> > Alex.
> >
> > On Wednesday 09 July 2008 14:35:13 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> >> i'm not as familiar with avforums as i am avsforum
> >>
> >> Alex Atkin wrote:
> >>> http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=727399&page=6
> >>>
> >>> Alex.
> >>>
> >>> On Tuesday 08 July 2008 22:01:51 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> >>>> LG pre-calibrated?
> >>>>
> >>>> maybe it's true, maybe it's not, if it is, then thats the first time
> >>>> in history, TVs are pre-calibrated for showroom floors, not the home
> >>>> user. i just did a quick search at avsforum and don't see anything
> >>>> your mentioning, if it was true, it would be there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alex Atkin wrote:
> >>>>> I never said I did calibrate it right. I only calibrate to what
> >>>>> looks good to me, not standards. The LG however is supposed to be
> >>>>> pre-calibrated almost perfectly to certain Blu-ray players according
> >>>>> to reports online from people who checked it using something like
> >>>>> video essentials or whatever its called.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I found before I packed it up that sticking it on Cinema mode and
> >>>>> cranking the backlight on to full (I hate Cinema brightness even in
> >>>>> the Cinema, its too dull and makes me tired) looked fine to me for
> >>>>> Blu-ray playback.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But anyway yeah my Samsung probably is not optimal whereas the LG
> >>>>> pretty much is out of the box. It doesn't alter the fact that the LG
> >>>>> is 2 years newer technology and an IPS panel rather than the PVA the
> >>>>> Samsung has, so will always look a damn site better than the Samsung.
> >>>>> This is heavily helped by PAL Half-HDTVs stupid habit of being 768p
> >>>>> instead of 720p and only accepting 720p or 1080i/p (my Samsung does
> >>>>> not support 1080p input, slightly too old) over HDMI.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Going back to the Samsung feels REALLY laggy. On the LG you can pan
> >>>>> the camera around in GTA with fairly good clarity, the Samsung on the
> >>>>> other hand makes you dizzy and hard to see with a clearly slower
> >>>>> response time - either the panel or software, probably both.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We could argue about which manufacturer is better, quite frankly it
> >>>>> would be silly as I make no claims to know. I just know the LG
> >>>>> panels I have seen look "good enough" to me and Vizios are only sold
> >>>>> in the US from what I can tell. A friend of mine has a "budget range"
> >>>>> 37" 1080p HDTV and I didn't even realise it was 1080p because it
> >>>>> looks like ass. The colours are terrible, its dull, just about any
> >>>>> bad point you care to name. Plus its not as if Inside Xbox is worth
> >>>>> buying a different TV for even if it WAS the TV at fault, which I
> >>>>> doubt it is.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Alex.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tuesday 08 July 2008 12:47:48 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> >>>>>> maybe u never calibrated it right, i can easily see how you wouldn't
> >>>>>> know how to do that properly, but still thinking that u did it
> >>>>>> perfectly
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alex Atkin wrote:
> >>>>>>> Well perhaps its an unfair comparison, but my 2 year old Samsung
> >>>>>>> cannot get close to the picture quality/vibrant images of a 6 month
> >>>>>>> only, smaller, cheaper, LG.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In fact I would go so far as to say my Samsung looks dull, washed
> >>>>>>> out and generally not very nice at all. But then, LCD technology
> >>>>>>> likely improved a lot in the last 2 years so its not really a
> >>>>>>> surprise.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Put it this way. The latest model LG kicks the living daylights
> >>>>>>> out of my old Samsung. Also, its up to $600 less than the 2"
> >>>>>>> smaller equivalent Samsung in the shops right now. So why wouldn't
> >>>>>>> I favour it?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Alex.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Monday 07 July 2008 14:39:43 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> >>>>>>>> LG are the lower end of LCD's, so i don't care how many they make,
> >>>>>>>> quantity doesn't equal quality. samsung may have LCD issues, but
> >>>>>>>> they do make some of the best LCD screens, they just have software
> >>>>>>>> issues, which is too bad
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> It was a sane answer, might've sounded insane to you but to at
> >>>>>>>>> least the two of us it's normality. Yes, the Samsung's a mess on
> >>>>>>>>> more than just the software side - no argument.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> But, what you describe as pluses for the LG's - stock stuff on
> >>>>>>>>> the Vizios we use that we've beat the living (#$* out of and
> >>>>>>>>> never had any issues like this. All resolutions, multiple
> >>>>>>>>> formats - never a dropout or glitch like you describe. Doesn't
> >>>>>>>>> mean it's not happening, just that the Vizio's aren't doing it.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Just to be fair and balanced, not making it look like I love
> >>>>>>>>> to just poke you in the eye for fun and sport, I'm getting my
> >>>>>>>>> hands on that exact cable and I'm going to give it a whirl with
> >>>>>>>>> exactly what you've described on both the Vizio's I have working
> >>>>>>>>> and also my personally annoying Olevia/Syntax Brillian 32" as
> >>>>>>>>> well to see if the same thing pops up.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And in response, I wasn't planning on giving you a solution -
> >>>>>>>>> I was asking for those details to be able to duplicate it on
> >>>>>>>>> other setups and see if there is a true glitch or possibly just
> >>>>>>>>> one on your model of TV OR if it's just you and you're cursed.
> >>>>>>>>> The details you originally gave is more like 'my ass hurts' and
> >>>>>>>>> not 'my butt hurts when I sit on a metal table and it's -30f
> >>>>>>>>> outside in the wintertime' which helps duplicate the environment.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Since my Vizio's are on the road all the time in all kinds of
> >>>>>>>>> temps and weather/power conditions if I asked the same thing no
> >>>>>>>>> one would probably have the same issues. The Olevia's inside and
> >>>>>>>>> stable, so that'd be a totally different environment. We've
> >>>>>>>>> already noticed a difference in the calibration of Guitar Hero
> >>>>>>>>> III's w/the Les Paul's and the Vizios depending on what kind of
> >>>>>>>>> power is being supplied to it. Up to 18ms off in some cases. So
> >>>>>>>>> that's why I asked where the rest of the info is, to see if it's
> >>>>>>>>> something bigger you can't fix or something in your setups to
> >>>>>>>>> investigate.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you'd rather just have Proph and me poke ya and never
> >>>>>>>>> really respond to your posts when you ask for help or
> >>>>>>>>> information, hey just ask! LOL
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Alex Atkin<yahoo@maewhitman.com>
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Of course, the second largest panel producer MUST be the
> >>>>>>>>>> problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Seriously, the LG from what I have seen has FAR better software
> >>>>>>>>>> than other manufacturers. The Samsung remote and software is
> >>>>>>>>>> just pathetic. You couldnt easily jump from EXT1 to HDMI, you
> >>>>>>>>>> had to keep slowly (it would take about a second to respond)
> >>>>>>>>>> pressing the input select button.. The LG you press input select
> >>>>>>>>>> and it gives you a list.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The ONLY problems with the LG are ghosting on all inputs (all
> >>>>>>>>>> TVs do it from what I hear, its some bullshit to do with motion
> >>>>>>>>>> compensation, its not too noticable from a sane viewing distance
> >>>>>>>>>> thankfully) and problems in 100Hz mode
> >>>>>>>>>> with fast motion, but I think thats just the nature of trying to
> >>>>>>>>>> generate an extra frame from 2 frames - you are gonna get
> >>>>>>>>>> artifacts.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So yeah please give a SANE answer. I am 99% sure this is the 360
> >>>>>>>>>> at fault because the corruption is coming in clear, it just
> >>>>>>>>>> looks like a GPU crash to be honest but its not - because it
> >>>>>>>>>> works fine if you then exit back out. Like I said, its clearly
> >>>>>>>>>> not the TV as you well know once the 360 is set to a
> >>>>>>>>>> resolution it ALWAYS outputs that resolution. If the TV couldnt
> >>>>>>>>>> handle 1080p then ALL output at 1080p from the 360 would be
> >>>>>>>>>> affected, its purely some sort
> >>>>>>>>>> of problem upscaling Inside Xbox to 1080p over VGA on my xbox.
> >>>>>>>>>> Very odd.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Mind you its not half as bad as the PS3. The 2.40 firmware
> >>>>>>>>>> update just broke the ability to steam AVIs, although some
> >>>>>>>>>> people had far worse issues needing a format of the hard drive
> >>>>>>>>>> in a PC to recover.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Alex.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sunday 06 July 2008 17:54:05 PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Heh, well you said it...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> But why poor ole' LG? Zenith did so well slapping their
> >>>>>>>>>>> nameplate on'em in the beginning, same with some other lower
> >>>>>>>>>>> brands that ya know, 'never had issues'.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Remember LG - Life's Good... when ya don't buy one.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:50 PM, PRoPHeTiZeR
> >>>>>>>>>>> <prophetizer@wrup.net>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> yes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> LOL, what the LG?<Grin>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM, PRoPHeTiZeR
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> theres your problem
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Atkin wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bingo, EXACTLY why I am using it too.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Its not the TV as Virtua Tennis 3 runs at 1080p perfectly as
> >>>>>>>>>>>> do playing HD-DVD
> >>>>>>>>>>>> movies. Like I said, its ONLY Inside Xbox.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I failed to give details because I wasn't asking for a fix,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> just curious if anyone else had the same glitch. For the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> record, this is the 42LG6000 my NEW
> >>>>>>>>>>>> TV.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alex.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday 01 July 2008 18:16:35 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> well, my 360 doesn't have HDMI, and the VGA looks better than
> >>>>>>>>>>>> component, why would anyone use composite?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> PSCG Cleveland wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> LOL, well ya know... Canadians get butt-naked and Brits can't
> >>>>>>>>>>>> figure out buttons so what are we poor air-conditioned
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Americans supposed to do? Logic says ya, quit screwing with
> >>>>>>>>>>>> what doesn't work and use what does, but apparently we're not
> >>>>>>>>>>>> logical.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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You should try the xbox on the LG Scarlet looks amazing. Saw it in a shop last week.
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