Unfortunately though as its a learning project its more or less died over the
past year due to my lack of attention to it. I am working on adding the
mailing list features to it though, if at all possible.
Alex.
On Thursday 05 June 2008 15:01:25 PogoWolf wrote:
> it's programming.. of course there's a way.. but yeah..it would be a PITA
> project.
> could be cool though. If anything the net needs a new 'group' code base
> to play with.
> if Yahoo sucks..and Google sucks.. what's left?!
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Alex Atkin <yahoo@maewhitman.com> wrote:
> > Is there not a way to do both?
> >
> > I for one like it being a mailing list but I would also find it HUGELY
> > useful
> > to pop over to a forum to read some of the longer threads. I had
> > considered
> >
> > trying to figure out how to do that myself but I figured it might involve
> > strong pain medication once I got started.
> >
> > Alex.
> >
> > On Wednesday 04 June 2008 17:03:41 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> > > I wasn't talking about forums, it is strictly an email based discussion
> > > list, just like yahoogroups. but u can have more flexibility over, for
> > > example, picture uploads and whatnot
> > >
> > >
> > > From: PSCG Cleveland
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 10:43 AM
> > > To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com <Xbox%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Xbox] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification(Failure)
> > >
> > >
> > > Now we're talking total revamp tho, compared to just a Group like
> > > it is now. Not sure who'd want to get into all that beyond you <Grin>
> > > and maybe me. We're using Joomla and converting quite a few static
> > > sites over to it now, so ya there's huge bonuses but it's also more
> > > web-based than e-mail based. You can plug in a forums setup and
> > > have it deal with e-mail, but then there's that whole forums/mailing
> > > list fight that breaks out every time.
> > >
> > > I host a car owner's group. One's e-mail on my servers with Mailman
> > > and the other went from a Mailman setup to Google Groups. That
> > > second one didn't 'die' by any means but it did slow up and had a
> > > couple of spam issues even with all the Owner of it did to prevent
> > > them.
> > >
> > > Now the other's still on Mailman with me and every so often someone
> > > starts up the cause for going to a website/forums style setup instead
> > > of just plain old e-mail. Granted these are older guys, but hey look
> > > at what we found out around here! LOL
> > >
> > > So there's a worthwhile Poll topic - Stay Yahoo!, go to Google Groups
> > > or switch over to a Website/Forums setup instead? (last one being
> > > done on a server with a CMS package like Proph mentioned)
> > >
> > > I haven't had a change to peep out what you've done over there
> > > Proph, to know if that's a good example of what 'could' be done with
> > > the right kind of setup.
> > >
> > > But I will agree, Yahoo's a giant PIA and their Group software is
> > > the best-of-the-worst. The bigger trick is making empty pointer
> > > groups in the various Groups software (Yahoo, Google, MS, etc.)
> > > that'd point to wherever it lands so more people find out about it.
> > > THAT's what kills groups - lack of promotion so almost anyone can
> > > trip onto the place.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:31 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR
> > > <prophetizer@wrup.net<prophetizer%40wrup.net>>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > or u could use one of the nice new CMS opensource portals and use the
> > > > discussion list features of it, so u essentially can get all the
> >
> > features
> >
> > > > of yahoo, plus way more, but the same functionality, sure I could
> > > > whip something up in no time
> > > > From: PSCG Cleveland
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:40 AM
> > > > To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com <Xbox%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Xbox] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification(Failure)
> > > > I'll tell ya...
> > > >
> > > > A) Less people can find it, Yahoo's Directory is much better BUT
> > > > there's a way around that...
> > > >
> > > > B) It's spamtastical. I love Google, they're great guys. I've had
> > > > Gmail for
> > > > 3+ years and intentionally beating the (#*$ out of it to test it's
> > > > limits, etc.
> > > > But Groups still needs some serious work. Spam gets through various
> > > > holes that seem to open up and then there's the mail problems like
> > > > when MS or Yahoo gets PO'ed at Google - mail stops being delivered or
> > > > gets delayed up to 21 hours (on average).
> > > >
> > > > Trust me, I've got multiple groups and many of us would love to flop
> > > > over to another format but sadly Yahoo's the best of the worst!
> > > >
> > > > Only other solution is just what Proph said - go private. I have a
> > > > couple smaller lists using Mailman, so essentially they're all e-mail
> >
> > and
> >
> > > > no site like Yahoo or Google. There's archives to read back online,
> >
> > just
> >
> > > > none of the fluffy things either of the others provide. Since you
> > > > have
> >
> > a
> >
> > > > setup where
> > > > you really want it all to be e-mail and the site doesn't have much
> >
> > going
> >
> > > > on, maybe it's an option?
> > > >
> > > > I've got room on my servers, easy to set up and xfer the members list
> > > > from Yahoo! and then you simply use the Yahoo! (and even Google)
> > > > groups as 'pointers' to send people to the new place to sign up. That
> > > > way you get all the traffic - none of the ads too! LoL
> > > >
> > > > Just some thoughts from the been there, done that sector.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:26 AM, PogoWolf
> > > > <pogowolf@gmail.com<pogowolf%40gmail.com>>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > >> Why not?
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Nelson Pacheco
> > > >> <nelson@nelzp.com<nelson%40nelzp.com>>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > >>> Noooooooooo
> > > >>> Thanks,
> > > >>> Nelson
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> From: PogoWolf
> > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:40 AM
> > > >>> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com <Xbox%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification(Failure)
> > > >>> You know.. I wonder how much of a pain in the ass it would be to
> > > >>> move the list over to Google Groups...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:25 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR
> > > >>> <prophetizer@wrup.net<prophetizer%40wrup.net>>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > >>>> that's why I run my own list server
> > > >>>> From: PogoWolf
> > > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 3:10 PM
> > > >>>> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com <Xbox%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification(Failure)
> > > >>>> it's blakes.. I forgot about the Yahoo Delay in remove people from
> >
> > the
> >
> > > >>>> member list.. God the Yahoo groups system must suck..LOL
> > > >>>> no wonder it takes forever to get something to happen...
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Nathan
> > > >>>> <full_metal_jacket1974@yahoo.com<full_metal_jacket1974%40yahoo.com
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>> It sucks to be you doesn't it? Probably just yahoo still
> > > >>>>> delivering mail. I changed that dudes settings on the 28th and
> > > >>>>> didn't get any for GFL
> > > >>>>> and after 4 days checked his setting were still no email I booted
> >
> > him
> >
> > > >>>>> and
> > > >>>>> still haven't got any.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I have even been posting more random shit testing it out to see
> > > >>>>> if any came back. Give it 2 days and I bet you don't get any more
> >
> > back.
> >
> > > >>>>> Is it still
> > > >>>>> captainblakes blackberry addy or something new?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> PogoWolf <pogowolf@gmail.com <pogowolf%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Yep.. removing that guy fixed it.. yep.. So there's someone else
> > > >>>>> in the
> > > >>>>> group that can't be bothered to stop his Emails. *sigh*
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > >>>>> From:
> > > >>>>> <postmaster@m1.blackberry.com<postmaster%40m1.blackberry.com>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Date: 2008/6/3
> > > >>>>> Subject: Delivery Status Notification(Failure)
> > > >>>>> To: pogowolf@gmail.com <pogowolf%40gmail.com>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> has not been delivered to the recipient's BlackBerry Handheld.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > >>>>> From:
> > > >>>>> To:
> > > >>>>> Date:
> > > >>>>> Subject:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --
> > > >>>>> On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the
> > > >>>>> PogoWolf with the red roses?
> > > >>>>> ==============================
> > > >>>>> The Pogowolf
> > > >>>>> http://pogowolf.wordpress.com (Personal Blog)
> > > >>>>> Http://www.GamersVue.com <http://www.gamersvue.com/> (Video Game
> >
> > news, and information)
> >
> > > >>>>> Http://Computer911.wordpress.com
> > > >>>>> http://www.cafepress.com/pogowolf (The PogoStore.. Bring out the
> >
> > Pogo
> >
> > > >>>>> in
> > > >>>>> you)
> > > >>>>> Http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xbox
> > > >>>>> ==============================
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the PogoWolf
> > > >>>> with the red roses?
> > > >>>> ==============================
> > > >>>> The Pogowolf
> > > >>>> http://pogowolf.wordpress.com (Personal Blog)
> > > >>>> Http://www.GamersVue.com <http://www.gamersvue.com/> (Video Game
> >
> > news, and information)
> >
> > > >>>> Http://Computer911.wordpress.com
> > > >>>> http://www.cafepress.com/pogowolf (The PogoStore.. Bring out the
> >
> > Pogo
> >
> > > >>>> in you)
> > > >>>> Http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xbox
> > > >>>> ==============================
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the PogoWolf
> >
> > with
> >
> > > >>> the red roses?
> > > >>> ==============================
> > > >>> The Pogowolf
> > > >>> http://pogowolf.wordpress.com (Personal Blog)
> > > >>> Http://www.GamersVue.com <http://www.gamersvue.com/> (Video Game
> >
> > news, and information)
> >
> > > >>> Http://Computer911.wordpress.com
> > > >>> <http://computer911.wordpress.com/>(Computer/Programming/How to
> > > >>> Blog) http://www.cafepress.com/pogowolf (The PogoStore.. Bring out
> > > >>> the
> >
> > Pogo
> >
> > > >>> in you)
> > > >>> Http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xbox
> > > >>> ==============================
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the PogoWolf
> >
> > with
> >
> > > >> the
> > > >> red roses?
> > > >> ==============================
> > > >> The Pogowolf
> > > >> http://pogowolf.wordpress.com (Personal Blog)
> > > >> Http://www.GamersVue.com <http://www.gamersvue.com/> (Video Game
> >
> > news, and information)
> >
> > > >> Http://Computer911.wordpress.com
> > > >> <http://computer911.wordpress.com/>(Computer/Programming/How to
> > > >> Blog) http://www.cafepress.com/pogowolf (The PogoStore.. Bring out
> > > >> the Pogo
> >
> > in
> >
> > > >> you)
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