I for one like it being a mailing list but I would also find it HUGELY useful
to pop over to a forum to read some of the longer threads. I had considered
trying to figure out how to do that myself but I figured it might involve
strong pain medication once I got started.
Alex.
On Wednesday 04 June 2008 17:03:41 PRoPHeTiZeR wrote:
> I wasn't talking about forums, it is strictly an email based discussion
> list, just like yahoogroups. but u can have more flexibility over, for
> example, picture uploads and whatnot
>
>
> From: PSCG Cleveland
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 10:43 AM
> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification(Failure)
>
>
> Now we're talking total revamp tho, compared to just a Group like
> it is now. Not sure who'd want to get into all that beyond you <Grin>
> and maybe me. We're using Joomla and converting quite a few static
> sites over to it now, so ya there's huge bonuses but it's also more
> web-based than e-mail based. You can plug in a forums setup and
> have it deal with e-mail, but then there's that whole forums/mailing list
> fight that breaks out every time.
>
> I host a car owner's group. One's e-mail on my servers with Mailman
> and the other went from a Mailman setup to Google Groups. That
> second one didn't 'die' by any means but it did slow up and had a
> couple of spam issues even with all the Owner of it did to prevent them.
>
> Now the other's still on Mailman with me and every so often someone
> starts up the cause for going to a website/forums style setup instead
> of just plain old e-mail. Granted these are older guys, but hey look
> at what we found out around here! LOL
>
> So there's a worthwhile Poll topic - Stay Yahoo!, go to Google Groups
> or switch over to a Website/Forums setup instead? (last one being
> done on a server with a CMS package like Proph mentioned)
>
> I haven't had a change to peep out what you've done over there
> Proph, to know if that's a good example of what 'could' be done with
> the right kind of setup.
>
> But I will agree, Yahoo's a giant PIA and their Group software is
> the best-of-the-worst. The bigger trick is making empty pointer
> groups in the various Groups software (Yahoo, Google, MS, etc.)
> that'd point to wherever it lands so more people find out about it.
> THAT's what kills groups - lack of promotion so almost anyone can
> trip onto the place.
>
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:31 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote:
> > or u could use one of the nice new CMS opensource portals and use the
> > discussion list features of it, so u essentially can get all the features
> > of yahoo, plus way more, but the same functionality, sure I could whip
> > something up in no time
> > From: PSCG Cleveland
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:40 AM
> > To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Xbox] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification(Failure)
> > I'll tell ya...
> >
> > A) Less people can find it, Yahoo's Directory is much better BUT
> > there's a way around that...
> >
> > B) It's spamtastical. I love Google, they're great guys. I've had
> > Gmail for
> > 3+ years and intentionally beating the (#*$ out of it to test it's
> > limits, etc.
> > But Groups still needs some serious work. Spam gets through various
> > holes that seem to open up and then there's the mail problems like when
> > MS or Yahoo gets PO'ed at Google - mail stops being delivered or gets
> > delayed up to 21 hours (on average).
> >
> > Trust me, I've got multiple groups and many of us would love to flop
> > over to another format but sadly Yahoo's the best of the worst!
> >
> > Only other solution is just what Proph said - go private. I have a
> > couple smaller lists using Mailman, so essentially they're all e-mail and
> > no site like Yahoo or Google. There's archives to read back online, just
> > none of the fluffy things either of the others provide. Since you have a
> > setup where
> > you really want it all to be e-mail and the site doesn't have much going
> > on, maybe it's an option?
> >
> > I've got room on my servers, easy to set up and xfer the members list
> > from Yahoo! and then you simply use the Yahoo! (and even Google)
> > groups as 'pointers' to send people to the new place to sign up. That
> > way you get all the traffic - none of the ads too! LoL
> >
> > Just some thoughts from the been there, done that sector.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:26 AM, PogoWolf <pogowolf@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Why not?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Nelson Pacheco <nelson@nelzp.com> wrote:
> >>> Noooooooooo
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Nelson
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: PogoWolf
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:40 AM
> >>> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification(Failure)
> >>> You know.. I wonder how much of a pain in the ass it would be to move
> >>> the list over to Google Groups...
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:25 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net>
wrote:
> >>>> that's why I run my own list server
> >>>> From: PogoWolf
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 3:10 PM
> >>>> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification(Failure)
> >>>> it's blakes.. I forgot about the Yahoo Delay in remove people from the
> >>>> member list.. God the Yahoo groups system must suck..LOL
> >>>> no wonder it takes forever to get something to happen...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Nathan
> >>>> <full_metal_jacket1974@yahoo.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> It sucks to be you doesn't it? Probably just yahoo still delivering
> >>>>> mail. I changed that dudes settings on the 28th and didn't get any
> >>>>> for GFL
> >>>>> and after 4 days checked his setting were still no email I booted him
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> still haven't got any.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have even been posting more random shit testing it out to see if
> >>>>> any came back. Give it 2 days and I bet you don't get any more back.
> >>>>> Is it still
> >>>>> captainblakes blackberry addy or something new?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PogoWolf <pogowolf@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yep.. removing that guy fixed it.. yep.. So there's someone else in
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> group that can't be bothered to stop his Emails. *sigh*
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>>> From: <postmaster@m1.blackberry.com>
> >>>>> Date: 2008/6/3
> >>>>> Subject: Delivery Status Notification(Failure)
> >>>>> To: pogowolf@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> has not been delivered to the recipient's BlackBerry Handheld.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>>> From:
> >>>>> To:
> >>>>> Date:
> >>>>> Subject:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the PogoWolf
> >>>>> with the red roses?
> >>>>> ==============================
> >>>>> The Pogowolf
> >>>>> http://pogowolf.wordpress.com (Personal Blog)
> >>>>> Http://www.GamersVue.com (Video Game news, and information)
> >>>>> Http://Computer911.wordpress.com (Computer/Programming/How to Blog)
> >>>>> http://www.cafepress.com/pogowolf (The PogoStore.. Bring out the Pogo
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> you)
> >>>>> Http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xbox (The largest/best XBox group on
> >>>>> yahoo!)
> >>>>> ==============================
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the PogoWolf
> >>>> with the red roses?
> >>>> ==============================
> >>>> The Pogowolf
> >>>> http://pogowolf.wordpress.com (Personal Blog)
> >>>> Http://www.GamersVue.com (Video Game news, and information)
> >>>> Http://Computer911.wordpress.com (Computer/Programming/How to Blog)
> >>>> http://www.cafepress.com/pogowolf (The PogoStore.. Bring out the Pogo
> >>>> in you)
> >>>> Http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xbox (The largest/best XBox group on
> >>>> yahoo!)
> >>>> ==============================
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the PogoWolf with
> >>> the red roses?
> >>> ==============================
> >>> The Pogowolf
> >>> http://pogowolf.wordpress.com (Personal Blog)
> >>> Http://www.GamersVue.com (Video Game news, and information)
> >>> Http://Computer911.wordpress.com (Computer/Programming/How to Blog)
> >>> http://www.cafepress.com/pogowolf (The PogoStore.. Bring out the Pogo
> >>> in you)
> >>> Http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xbox (The largest/best XBox group on
> >>> yahoo!)
> >>> ==============================
> >>
> >> --
> >> On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the PogoWolf with
> >> the
> >> red roses?
> >> ==============================
> >> The Pogowolf
> >> http://pogowolf.wordpress.com (Personal Blog)
> >> Http://www.GamersVue.com (Video Game news, and information)
> >> Http://Computer911.wordpress.com (Computer/Programming/How to Blog)
> >> http://www.cafepress.com/pogowolf (The PogoStore.. Bring out the Pogo in
> >> you)
> >> Http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xbox (The largest/best XBox group on
> >> yahoo!) ==============================
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