for games than we need to. I'd rather opt for the add-on drive like you
mentioned before, much more flexible and by the time you pay for it you'll
save tons over paying for the increased price of games if they were multi-format
like that. Not to mention what else the drive would do beyond letting you
play the games. Biggest hump is data xfer rates over USB or whatever
connectors they'd use vs. the direct rates of an onboard HDD. If they're
the same, gimme the external and be done with it. How many people
are happy as a clam their add-on HD-DVD drives aren't a worthless piece
of junk mounted into their 360s causing even more heat RRoD problems!
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Nelson (nelzp) <nelson@nelzp.com> wrote:
> The only way the existing owners would be screwed is if newer games come in
> Blu-Ray discs only. They could probably do something like PC games do
> now, CD or DVD choice of discs.
> Thanks,
> Nelson
>
>
>
> From: PogoWolf
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:08 AM
> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Next Xbox?
> I don't either.. I'm looking at it from a business stand point. I don't
> think people will be
> left in the cold per se.. it's would just be a new version.. like how all
> the orginal owners
> are SOL with all the new hardware updates that MS has done for the current
> version
> of the 360.. or as someone stated perhaps it'll be a new 'platium' edition
> with all
> this new poop in it.
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Nelson (nelzp) <nelson@nelzp.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don't feel MS is as evil as lots of people make them out to be.
>> Thanks,
>> Nelson
>>
>>
>>
>> From: PogoWolf
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:48 AM
>> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Next Xbox?
>> YOu just said above 'Who's going to shell out the money to buy a new one'
>> so why should MS care? =)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Nelson (nelzp) <nelson@nelzp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> software integration for future version of Windows?
>>>
>>> I can't seen MS screwing 15M+ owners. The Blu-Ray will be an add-on.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nelson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: PogoWolf
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:31 AM
>>> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Next Xbox?
>>> and you won't.. MS has never worked that way. =) if there is a new
>>> version those of us that have bought the
>>> old version are SOL. however, seeing the blu-ray IN the 360, or as an
>>> addon rumor has been shot down each
>>> time.. however, MS has never stated they wheren't getting blu-ray drives,
>>> and there's been plunty of prove from
>>> other MFG's that MS has ordered a metric butt-ton of drives. They've
>>> gotta be going somewhere.
>>>
>>> and MS doesn't make computers, nor do they tell 'Dell' what to put into
>>> there machines, so that's a line of crap right there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Nelson (nelzp) <nelson@nelzp.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But how many of us established 360 owners are going to want shell out
>>>> another $400 for a xbox again so soon. All those features sound great but
>>>> I'd like to get my money's worth on what I've already bought. I just don't
>>>> see it happening so soon.
>>>>
>>>> That Blu-Ray player rumor has been shot down every time. They have
>>>> confirmed they've been in talks about it, but it was for integration into
>>>> Vista PCs, not the xbox. But I wouldn't be surprised to see an add-on for
>>>> the 360 similar to the HD-DVD player.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Nelson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: PogoWolf
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:11 AM
>>>> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Next Xbox?
>>>> At this point none of that matters. The issue that M$ is faceing is the
>>>> fact that
>>>> even though the PS3 is a POS.. it is a really cheap (like cheapest)
>>>> Blu-ray player.
>>>> and now that the 360 is pretty much past it's prime, and losing sales
>>>> because
>>>> it's no longer 'new', the PS3 sales are going to jump.. and jump quickly
>>>> (like they are in Europe)
>>>> This will in turn give the PS3 more market share and 'force' 3rd party
>>>> developers to figure out the
>>>> hardware and make some games for the system.
>>>>
>>>> Right now the only things the 360 has going for it is a large
>>>> established user base, easy to program
>>>> hardware, and a networking system that works most of the time. But
>>>> nothing 'new'.
>>>>
>>>> If M$ wants to keep up the pressure on Sony they need to release the
>>>> next version sooner rather then
>>>> later. Right now we know that M$ has ordered blu-ray drives, and we
>>>> know they are working on a
>>>> Wii style of remote. We also know they dropped this years spring up
>>>> date to 'work on other things'
>>>>
>>>> So here's the idea.. M$ creates a new 360, with blu-ray support, and the
>>>> 'Wiimote' looking thing.
>>>> updates the hardware to allow for DVR capablites and a MUCH bigger
>>>> drive, removes the DNR BS from
>>>> movies to allow a direct connection into someones home network, and
>>>> updates LIVE to allow for Streaming Movies
>>>> (Via NetFlicks) , TV (MSNBC?), and Audio (URGE).
>>>>
>>>> they don't need really to update the graphics at this point, because
>>>> it's still going to be a few years until
>>>> anyone really figures out the hardware of the PS3 and then figures out
>>>> that it doesn't matter because
>>>> the PS3 can't push the polys. now the audio because pretty much sound
>>>> is sound at this point.
>>>>
>>>> and it puts a new Xbox in front of the people to keep the brand going
>>>> until they can release the next-gen
>>>> version of the xbox in a few years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:52 AM, PSCG Cleveland
>>>> <pscgcleveland@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> But... that'd still be the 360, no? Sounded like he was asking about
>>>>> the
>>>>> mysterious 720 that I agree with Nelson is a few years off. They're
>>>>> riding
>>>>> high on things right now and the PS3 doesn't have enough of any edge to
>>>>> it to cause them to search for better GPU's.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to mention if AMD doesn't kill themselves the 360's AMD/ATI loaded
>>>>> and those nutballs are working on a new gen of all-in-one chip that'd
>>>>> give
>>>>> any '720' game console the ability to be triple-core CPU, triple GPU in
>>>>> the
>>>>> same space. Right now it's tri-core, single ATI GPU. But they're at
>>>>> least
>>>>> a year from perfecting it, producing it and letting it test out on PC's
>>>>> and
>>>>> laptops before MS would want to get tangled up with it. They just payed
>>>>> through the nose on this screw-up, they're going to want time-tested
>>>>> before
>>>>> doing it again, wouldn't you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:33 AM, PogoWolf <pogowolf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > I'm thinking late next year (2009)..
>>>>> > Pretty much it'll be an Xbox 360 with better networkign support,
>>>>> > Blu-ray
>>>>> > support, and 100% BC to the 360. kinda like a 'Media edition' version
>>>>> > of
>>>>> > the 360. and yes, I'll argue my reasons for the thought to anyone
>>>>> > that
>>>>> > gives a poop. LOL
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Nelson (nelzp) <nelson@nelzp.com>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I think we still have a few more years to go on the current one.
>>>>> >> thanks,
>>>>> >> Nelson
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> From: David
>>>>> >> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:57 PM
>>>>> >> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
>>>>> >> Subject: [Xbox] Next Xbox?
>>>>> >> any idea when the next xbox is coming out?
>>>>> >>
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