Re: [Xbox] Next Xbox?

I'm already on U-verse..  there's still come kinks.. LOL

mostly because it's fiber to the CO.. Copper to your home, then CAT5 to the all in one router/recevier

then Cat5 to the DVR, and coaxle to the TV itself.  so you're loosing some speed between all the

transfers.. however, it is faster then cable.. even on my 20+ year old apartment copper.

 

 

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:28 AM, PSCG Cleveland <pscgcleveland@gmail.com> wrote:

Well that's what I was saying... You're talking more of an XBox 360
Platinum than an all-new XBox 'something' (last code-named 720). Where
they take what they have and add the goodies that you're saying they
will. I'd expect that possibly even by Xmas with the new regime and
management shuffles, they've been poking around looking for the right
hookups for the BluRay and such for most of this year.

So I agree with what you said, but that's just another model of 360
and it sounded more like he was asking when the '720' or next-next-gen
box was coming out.

Now about that DVR crud...

A) Like you said - MUCH bigger drive.

B) Like I said right here months ago - IT EXISTS! They've been
road-testing the stupid thing overseas as AT&T's new 'cable-buster'
all in one digital TV receiver! The major problem here in the US is
that we're slow as hell and it's taking AT&T & Verizon (the largest
geographical providers) too freakin long to roll out the Fiber Op
network needed to shove all that down the pipeline to the hungry
masses (like myself) waiting to hook up to it. Finally I saw them
out near our place pulling fiber so we can get the U-Verse package
in 2009 - at the latest.

But our networks can't handle the DVR setups on the 360, least
not for the DSL providers to use that way. DVR is a glorified PC
recording system. Right now Cable Co's use MPEG-2 and cram
it down the too-tiny cable bandwidth pipes, usually ruining the
signal. DVR w/HDTV really demands MPEG-4 to keep the quality
and that >demands< FiberOp. Regular phone lines or cable can't
pump that much signal out, or if they do you're gonna get a
whopping 20 channels!

So what you're saying exists, MS just has to pull the limiters off
what they have in the 360 right now. DVR'ing is just recording a
digital file, you do that now on Live! sucking down a movie to the
HDD. And it's MS limiting the HDD capacities, they have to fix
that. If they've already inked that deal permanently with AT&T that
is causing them to hold back this stuff so that AT&T's got an
exclusive DSL/Digital TV package on the 360's - there's why we
haven't seen it now. We're all guinea pigs with Live! perfecting the
code in stages to create the ultimate 360/DVR/DTV Tuner system.

I'll bet money MS doesn't care about system sales. They've got
the established base out there and now they're working on being
the dominant content provider through Live! since Sorry (Sony) and
Nintendo can't seem to get it right. They're making their money
back on that large, long-term investment and once perfected by
all of us - they get the huge payoff with millions of units sold to
AT&T and the like for DTV. Don't kid yourself, it's the ultimate
master plan.

Only hitch is those of us with older console models may get
shut out or have to spend money to buy 'upgrade packs' that
plug into the expansion ports to make the new stuff fly.

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:11 AM, PogoWolf <pogowolf@gmail.com> wrote:
> At this point none of that matters. The issue that M$ is faceing is the
> fact that
> even though the PS3 is a POS.. it is a really cheap (like cheapest) Blu-ray
> player.
> and now that the 360 is pretty much past it's prime, and losing sales
> because
> it's no longer 'new', the PS3 sales are going to jump.. and jump quickly
> (like they are in Europe)
> This will in turn give the PS3 more market share and 'force' 3rd party
> developers to figure out the
> hardware and make some games for the system.
>
> Right now the only things the 360 has going for it is a large established
> user base, easy to program
> hardware, and a networking system that works most of the time. But nothing
> 'new'.
>
> If M$ wants to keep up the pressure on Sony they need to release the next
> version sooner rather then
> later. Right now we know that M$ has ordered blu-ray drives, and we know
> they are working on a
> Wii style of remote. We also know they dropped this years spring up date
> to 'work on other things'
>
> So here's the idea.. M$ creates a new 360, with blu-ray support, and the
> 'Wiimote' looking thing.
> updates the hardware to allow for DVR capablites and a MUCH bigger drive,
> removes the DNR BS from
> movies to allow a direct connection into someones home network, and updates
> LIVE to allow for Streaming Movies
> (Via NetFlicks) , TV (MSNBC?), and Audio (URGE).
>
> they don't need really to update the graphics at this point, because it's
> still going to be a few years until
> anyone really figures out the hardware of the PS3 and then figures out that
> it doesn't matter because
> the PS3 can't push the polys. now the audio because pretty much sound is
> sound at this point.
>
> and it puts a new Xbox in front of the people to keep the brand going until
> they can release the next-gen
> version of the xbox in a few years.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:52 AM, PSCG Cleveland <pscgcleveland@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> But... that'd still be the 360, no? Sounded like he was asking about the
>> mysterious 720 that I agree with Nelson is a few years off. They're riding
>> high on things right now and the PS3 doesn't have enough of any edge to
>> it to cause them to search for better GPU's.
>>
>> Not to mention if AMD doesn't kill themselves the 360's AMD/ATI loaded
>> and those nutballs are working on a new gen of all-in-one chip that'd give
>> any '720' game console the ability to be triple-core CPU, triple GPU in
>> the
>> same space. Right now it's tri-core, single ATI GPU. But they're at least
>> a year from perfecting it, producing it and letting it test out on PC's
>> and
>> laptops before MS would want to get tangled up with it. They just payed
>> through the nose on this screw-up, they're going to want time-tested
>> before
>> doing it again, wouldn't you think?
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:33 AM, PogoWolf <pogowolf@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm thinking late next year (2009)..
>> > Pretty much it'll be an Xbox 360 with better networkign support, Blu-ray
>> > support, and 100% BC to the 360. kinda like a 'Media edition' version of
>> > the 360. and yes, I'll argue my reasons for the thought to anyone that
>> > gives a poop. LOL
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Nelson (nelzp) <nelson@nelzp.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I think we still have a few more years to go on the current one.
>> >> thanks,
>> >> Nelson
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: David
>> >> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:57 PM
>> >> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
>> >> Subject: [Xbox] Next Xbox?
>> >> any idea when the next xbox is coming out?
>> >>
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