Re: [Xbox] Inside Xbox Problem

well, my 360 doesn't have HDMI, and the VGA looks better than component, why would anyone use composite?

PSCG Cleveland wrote:

  LOL, well ya know... Canadians get butt-naked and Brits can't figure out buttons so what are we poor air-conditioned Americans supposed to do?  Logic says ya, quit screwing with what doesn't work and use what does, but apparently we're not logical.    But I mean he even left out the part where he's tried one of the HDTV cables and it works AOK, but just not that resolution with the VGA cable.  Or, that neither works and maybe it's a junk TV as we've seen some manufacturers kick out.  Samsung's got all kinda hi-res issues with compatibility as an example.  But we're not privileged enough to know these little details.    Still I want to know what the big deal/advantage is to running the VGA over the HDMI or Composite.  I know the difference of those two, if you have a decent HDTV with a proper HDMI processor it's shoving raw data to the TV like mad, nearly taking any thoughts of lag out.  But some cheap chipsets and older HDMI circuits/programming actually make it worse if the source can shove pure HDMI down the pipe.    But VGA?  At best that'd fall somewhere between Composite and HDMI when hooked to a TV, we've had a few run that way and the settings showed we were better with one designed for a PC than a TV rigged as a monitor.    Inquiring minds wanna know, but you'd better get dressed first because I pay my monthly donations to your cult for your mind, not your body! <Grin>  On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:45 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote:   

well, i know his TV is 768p native, so if he would just use that, since he said it worked, and not 1080p, LMAO  PSCG Cleveland wrote:    Ya, I just looked it up to be sure... That's a freakin VGA DSUB-15 PC monitor-style hookup.  Not composite or component.  So first since Alex loves to skimp details we gotta find out if he's using the official cable or some knock-off, then the TV he's using to deal with it.  Didn't bother to mention all those nice details that might help him get an answer.   Obviously it's going to be a little harder since he's not in the US to find someone running the same stuff, so it's hard to pin down the problem.  He's tucked away in his bed for a couple more hours now, then we'll hopefully get some realistic information.   One thing that's buggin me is the 768p bit, since it's 720p as a norm at least here in the US.  So if it's working but at a funky base resolution for him it's possible his TV can't deal with the higher res because it's not tying to put out 1080p/i but some other weird multiple? On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:24 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote:   i'm using the official microsoft xbox 360 VGA cable PSCG Cleveland wrote:   What you talkin bout Willis...   I saw the 'over VGA' part, but there's an SDTV cable and the HDTV cable.  Ain't no VGA in the freakin house unless you're using a VGA conversion cable from the aftermarket to shove it to VGA DSUB15 inputs on a monitor OR some TV's like the Vizio's we have that provide tons of input.   But again, let's say he's using the conversion cable and plugging it into the VGA port on an LCD TV.  Eh, why?  Some funky new UK trick we're not enlightened on?  Smart money says don't be a dope and shove it out HDMI-style and be done with it, gonna pump better data rates that stock VGA anyways.   Thusly, I don't get what he's up to, but ya know that's normal... On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:03 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote: no, it's for his TV, he's using the xbox 360 VGA cable to attach to his LCD TV, he said over VGA, meaning over the cable, not the device PSCG Cleveland wrote:   He said VGA Proph... not TV.   Why are you using VGA anyways?  Just out of curiosity, I mean do you have a large PC monitor or something?  And how are you generating your VGA signal, whatever you have for that could very well be the cause of your problems.  VGA monitors are touchy and if you don't have the frequency set up right to match the resolution you'd get garbage results like that.  Not sure what UK freq's are compared to the US, but check that setting and also see if you can tell us what's up with the output.   VGA should be using a DSUB15, if you have a PC monitor that has Composite inputs and you're using that - again that could be something your monitor's not capable of or needs a different freq setting to unscramble the thing. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:13 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote: works for me on my SAWEET 61" LED DLP, 1080p maybe you should just use 768p since thats the native res of your tv? i dunno, but that makes sense to me Alex Atkin wrote: Hi All, Does anyone else use their 360 at 1080p over VGA because I found a nasty bug on mine at those settings? Inside Xbox doesn't work. I just get a screen full of garbage and the audio as normal. It works fine if I drop the resolution back to 768p but fails every time at 1080p. Everything else seems to work fine at 1080p, its quite odd. First time it happened I thought the GPU had packed up. Alex.          

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