Re: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage Fees

well I would assume so if I got DSL.. I didn't.. it's Fiber. =)  AT&T U-verse

 

 

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:37 PM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net> wrote:

Sweet, now you'll get slow ass dsl

 

From: Xbox@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PogoWolf
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:25 PM

To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage Fees

 

speaking of.. was able to kick Comcast to the curb today!!  woot!!!

 

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:12 PM, PSCG Cleveland <pscgcleveland@gmail.com> wrote:

Whooo sneaky and very possible with someone who knows that
system. Cable decoders have the tracking in their software for
what moved where and report that back to the central servers. Way
too many years ago I built the first-gen Sci Atlanta servers and that
was beyond a trip. Chips to run it brought in by Brinks trucks even.
So they guard it well and it's going to differ by manufacturer sadly.

The cable modems, again vary like mad but I'm not sure where
the metering takes place? I know on the AT&T DSL interface from
that modem/router it's logged internally and 'rats' back to the CO
for logging. So presumably it's in the firmware of the cable modem
combined with the back-office at the Comcast.

So theoretically - can be done. Realistically... eh, not so
easily sadly. You'd have to kill the response modes of the modem
and somehow make the TV decoder say it's getting it instead AND
then also trick the Comcast end of things because all that's
coming from two different sources piped into the same line to
your place.

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Alan K. Martinez <akmartinez1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> How do companies like Comcast differentiate broadband data from their On
> Demand services for video vs. downloaded data for PC or Gaming use?
>
>
>
> If I watch tons and tons of movies that's downloaded data to my cable box
> but it's still coming over the same line as router.
>
>
>
> I'm sure there is a way they can tell but someone somehow will find a way to
> trick the system into thinking that their bandwidth being used is their
> cable box and not their router....
>
>
>
> And if they try to boot someone off for watching movies then they might have
> a problem becuase they did advertise unlimited movies 24 hours a day...
>
>
> -----
> Alan K. Martinez
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@wrup.net>
> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 7:37:43 AM
> Subject: RE: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage Fees
>
> Well, it's stupid, makes using streaming services, online movie rentals,
> it's just lame. Only the big companies do it, I'll switch if Comcast does
> it, that's for sure.
>
> And lets not forget just how shitty our broadband is compared to many other
> places.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Xbox@yahoogroups. com [mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PSCG
> Cleveland
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:13 AM
> To: Xbox@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage Fees
>
> Aww you l33ch you! LOL
>
> Aha, ya we're fortunate to barely have Comcast in the area - just TW,
> AT&T & Windstream (old Alltel) with a couple offshoots and none of them
> have ever said anything more than speeds - never volume.
>
> And your cases prove my point - they just threatened to kill you off
> (financially stupid for them) instead of pulling the 'piggy bank' deal like
> Verizon. VZW's always been money-grubbing nickel & dime scum as
> it is, this was just another brainchild idea of theirs that's sadly spread.
>
> It's been around for years in Servers & Hosting, so it's not 'new', but
> it was to wireless data and now broadband's got the itch to charge too.
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:00 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@ wrup.net> wrote:
>> Comcast use to advertise unlimited, I got a letter in the mail from them
>> telling me I was downloading too much, and if I didn't stop they would
>> cancel my account. I called, said it's suppose to be unlimited, but they
>> told me tough lol
>>
>> I was in the top 95% of downloaders that month. This was about 6 years ago
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Xbox@yahoogroups. com [mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
>> PSCG
>> Cleveland
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:43 AM
>> To: Xbox@yahoogroups. com
>> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage Fees
>>
>> You can all thank Verizon Wireless for the BS 'Limited Unlimited' stunt
>> they pulled on their PCMCIA/USB data services. I was one of the first to
>> get booted and wasn't that far over any unreasonable limits - but VZW
>> didn't care and sent a nice 'get lost-o-gram' terminating the service. No
>> early termination fee, no refund for the data card either - but also
>> no 'unlimited'
>> service like they claimed.
>>
>> Cable Co's are going to get away with this because they've advertised
>> speeds - not 'unlimited' anything for traffic. What a load!
>>
>> FOADVZW! I need a bumper sticker that says that...
>>
>> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:45 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@ wrup.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage Fees
>>> Clear caps? Great. $1.50/GB Overage fees? Wait a !@$% minute...
>>> 06:14PM Thursday May 08 2008 by Karl
>>> tags: competition . business . bandwidth . Op/Ed . Comcast . RoadRunner
>>> Cable . Rogers Hi-Speed
>>>
>>> What seemed like a vague industry possibility just a few months ago now
>>> seems like an inevitable certainty. Multiple carriers in North America
> are
>>> now either employing or considering monthly caps where users pay per
>>> gigabyte should they "over eat." But the move begs a number of questions.
>>> Not least of which is whether opening the door to overage fees invites a
>>> broadband future where ISPs use the nebulous specter of "excessive use"
> as
>> a
>>> new piggy bank -- and as a pre-emptive weapon against competing content.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Earlier this week I broke the news that Comcast is considering
>> implementing
>>> a 250GB monthly cap, with a $15 penalty for each 10GB over that cap you
>>> travel. I've been reading through the various subsequent coverage
>>> (Associated Press, New York Times, CBC) , and came across this Business
>> Week
>>> report. In it, Time Warner Cable spokesman Alex Dudley confirms they're
>>> still on track to begin testing their own overage system. If you recall,
>> we
>>> also broke the news of that system, which could come with caps as low as
>> 5GB
>>> per month.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www.broadban dreports. com/shownews/ Cable-Broadband- Users-Get-
> Ready-For
>> -Overage-Fees- 94240
>>>
>>>
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