minute) crap back in the 80's/early 90's. But due to the tech.
advances, we can't do the RATE CAP, esp. for insane gamers/downloading
junkie, that is unfair.
--- In Xbox@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson Pacheco" <nelson@...> wrote:
>
> lol, I thought it said C for central....missed the G, but CMT
doesn't even make sense unless you're into country, lol.
>
> Thanks,
> Nelson
>
>
> From: PRoPHeTiZeR
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:11 PM
> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage Fees
>
>
> GMT, I'm -6 GMT, so uh, that's the right time foolion
>
>
>
> GREENWICH MEAN TIME
>
>
>
> From: Xbox@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Nelson Pacheco
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:09 PM
> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage Fees
>
>
>
> You must be from the future...8:57pm??? LOL
>
>
>
> Thinking maybe speedboost kicked in?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Nelson
>
>
>
> From: PRoPHeTiZeR
>
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:59 PM
>
> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: RE: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage
Fees
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Xbox@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of PogoWolf
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:34 PM
> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage
Fees
>
>
>
> Something like:
>
>
>
> Max - Up to 10.0 Mbps downstream and up to 1.5 Mbps
upstream Starting at $55/month
>
> Elite - Up to 6.0 Mbps downstream and up to 1 Mbps
upstream Starting at $40/month
>
> Pro - Up to 3.0 Mbps downstream and up to 1 Mbps upstream
Starting at $30/month
>
> Express - Up to 1.5 Mbps downstream and up to 1 Mbps
upstream Starting at $25/month
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:00 PM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@...> wrote:
>
> What does the net cost specifically, just curious. But that's
cool, sounds cheaper
>
>
>
> From: Xbox@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of PogoWolf
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 1:53 PM
>
>
> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage
Fees
>
>
>
> well you are paying for pro, but still the 6 mb down is
non-shared so that'll help.
>
> more TV channels then Comcast, and it's like $90 a month for the
DVR (4 tuners)
>
> and the internet.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 2:44 PM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@...> wrote:
>
> Not faster than my comcast cable, but I do pay for pro. But,
that seems offly slow for fiber, at least what fios offers. What do
they charge u for that?
>
>
>
> From: Xbox@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of PogoWolf
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 1:16 PM
>
>
> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage
Fees
>
>
>
> opted for the the 6 meg down 1 meg up. from the little bit
I've tested this afternoon
>
> it's faster then Cable already, and shouldn't need to deal with
the 5pm slow down.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 2:06 PM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@...> wrote:
>
> Nice, what speeds?
>
>
>
> From: Xbox@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of PogoWolf
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:43 PM
>
>
> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage
Fees
>
>
>
> well I would assume so if I got DSL.. I didn't.. it's Fiber. =)
AT&T U-verse
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:37 PM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@...> wrote:
>
> Sweet, now you'll get slow ass dsl
>
>
>
> From: Xbox@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of PogoWolf
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:25 PM
>
>
> To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage
Fees
>
>
>
> speaking of.. was able to kick Comcast to the curb today!! woot!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:12 PM, PSCG Cleveland
<pscgcleveland@...> wrote:
>
> Whooo sneaky and very possible with someone who knows that
> system. Cable decoders have the tracking in their software for
> what moved where and report that back to the central servers. Way
> too many years ago I built the first-gen Sci Atlanta servers and
that
> was beyond a trip. Chips to run it brought in by Brinks trucks even.
> So they guard it well and it's going to differ by manufacturer
sadly.
>
> The cable modems, again vary like mad but I'm not sure where
> the metering takes place? I know on the AT&T DSL interface from
> that modem/router it's logged internally and 'rats' back to the CO
> for logging. So presumably it's in the firmware of the cable modem
> combined with the back-office at the Comcast.
>
> So theoretically - can be done. Realistically... eh, not so
> easily sadly. You'd have to kill the response modes of the modem
> and somehow make the TV decoder say it's getting it instead AND
> then also trick the Comcast end of things because all that's
> coming from two different sources piped into the same line to
> your place.
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Alan K. Martinez
<akmartinez1@...> wrote:
> > How do companies like Comcast differentiate broadband data
from their On
> > Demand services for video vs. downloaded data for PC or Gaming
use?
> >
> >
> >
> > If I watch tons and tons of movies that's downloaded data to
my cable box
> > but it's still coming over the same line as router.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm sure there is a way they can tell but someone somehow will
find a way to
> > trick the system into thinking that their bandwidth being used
is their
> > cable box and not their router....
> >
> >
> >
> > And if they try to boot someone off for watching movies then
they might have
> > a problem becuase they did advertise unlimited movies 24 hours
a day...
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Alan K. Martinez
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@...>
> > To: Xbox@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 7:37:43 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For
Overage Fees
> >
> > Well, it's stupid, makes using streaming services, online
movie rentals,
> > it's just lame. Only the big companies do it, I'll switch if
Comcast does
> > it, that's for sure.
> >
> > And lets not forget just how shitty our broadband is compared
to many other
> > places.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Xbox@yahoogroups. com [mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of PSCG
> > Cleveland
> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:13 AM
> > To: Xbox@yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: Re: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For
Overage Fees
> >
> > Aww you l33ch you! LOL
> >
> > Aha, ya we're fortunate to barely have Comcast in the area -
just TW,
> > AT&T & Windstream (old Alltel) with a couple offshoots and
none of them
> > have ever said anything more than speeds - never volume.
> >
> > And your cases prove my point - they just threatened to kill
you off
> > (financially stupid for them) instead of pulling the 'piggy
bank' deal like
> > Verizon. VZW's always been money-grubbing nickel & dime scum as
> > it is, this was just another brainchild idea of theirs that's
sadly spread.
> >
> > It's been around for years in Servers & Hosting, so it's not
'new', but
> > it was to wireless data and now broadband's got the itch to
charge too.
> >
> > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:00 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@
wrup.net> wrote:
> >> Comcast use to advertise unlimited, I got a letter in the
mail from them
> >> telling me I was downloading too much, and if I didn't stop
they would
> >> cancel my account. I called, said it's suppose to be
unlimited, but they
> >> told me tough lol
> >>
> >> I was in the top 95% of downloaders that month. This was
about 6 years ago
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Xbox@yahoogroups. com [mailto:Xbox@yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of
> >> PSCG
> >> Cleveland
> >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:43 AM
> >> To: Xbox@yahoogroups. com
> >> Subject: Re: [Xbox] Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For
Overage Fees
> >>
> >> You can all thank Verizon Wireless for the BS 'Limited
Unlimited' stunt
> >> they pulled on their PCMCIA/USB data services. I was one of
the first to
> >> get booted and wasn't that far over any unreasonable limits -
but VZW
> >> didn't care and sent a nice 'get lost-o-gram' terminating the
service. No
> >> early termination fee, no refund for the data card either -
but also
> >> no 'unlimited'
> >> service like they claimed.
> >>
> >> Cable Co's are going to get away with this because they've
advertised
> >> speeds - not 'unlimited' anything for traffic. What a load!
> >>
> >> FOADVZW! I need a bumper sticker that says that...
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:45 AM, PRoPHeTiZeR <prophetizer@
wrup.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cable Broadband Users, Get Ready For Overage Fees
> >>> Clear caps? Great. $1.50/GB Overage fees? Wait a !@$% minute...
> >>> 06:14PM Thursday May 08 2008 by Karl
> >>> tags: competition . business . bandwidth . Op/Ed . Comcast .
RoadRunner
> >>> Cable . Rogers Hi-Speed
> >>>
> >>> What seemed like a vague industry possibility just a few
months ago now
> >>> seems like an inevitable certainty. Multiple carriers in
North America
> > are
> >>> now either employing or considering monthly caps where users
pay per
> >>> gigabyte should they "over eat." But the move begs a number
of questions.
> >>> Not least of which is whether opening the door to overage
fees invites a
> >>> broadband future where ISPs use the nebulous specter of
"excessive use"
> > as
> >> a
> >>> new piggy bank -- and as a pre-emptive weapon against
competing content.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Earlier this week I broke the news that Comcast is considering
> >> implementing
> >>> a 250GB monthly cap, with a $15 penalty for each 10GB over
that cap you
> >>> travel. I've been reading through the various subsequent
coverage
> >>> (Associated Press, New York Times, CBC) , and came across
this Business
> >> Week
> >>> report. In it, Time Warner Cable spokesman Alex Dudley
confirms they're
> >>> still on track to begin testing their own overage system. If
you recall,
> >> we
> >>> also broke the news of that system, which could come with
caps as low as
> >> 5GB
> >>> per month.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> > http://www.broadban dreports. com/shownews/ Cable-Broadband-
Users-Get-
> > Ready-For
> >> -Overage-Fees- 94240
> >>>
> >>>
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